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Re: [ReSpec] dated versions of works in progress

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:03:02 -0500
To: Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>
Cc: Spec Prod <spec-prod@w3.org>
Message-ID: <1274198582.3925.11892.camel@pav>
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 17:28 +0200, Robin Berjon wrote:
> In this case, indeed not, but if one can't complain about dated space also in bad faith then is life really worth living?

;-)

> > It's the top search hit for "bibliography generator" on our site
> > (or "w3c bibliography generator" on your favorite search engine).
> > That does require knowing it exists.
> 
> Yup. I searched for various things (I think "bibliography database" might have been one of them)
>  when I was looking into this but I didn't stumble upon this tool. Is there a master
>  list of all tools? I would find that quite useful

Lists are like standards; there are so many to choose from:

As I said, there's a list of tools that are typically
discussed in this forum:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/#tools

or you can follow the "W3C Editors' Home Page" link
and look at http://www.w3.org/2003/Editors/#tools

And there's the http://www.w3.org/2003/Editors/,tools list.
(aka http://www.w3.org/,tools etc.; ,tools works
everywhere on our site).

>  (but I'm guessing that there's
>  no way to automate the generation of such a list).

No, we don't constrain tool creators to update any master list...
especially if you're talking about all tools on the W3C web site.

Hmm... I suppose that for security purposes, we probably should
be able to enumerate all the bits of code that power our
web site... I've seen some internal work on that. But I don't
think there are plans to publish the list, let alone maintain
a public list.

[...]
> But yes, automating references to W3C specs is certainly planned, and I guess that it
> could handle RFCs as well. For other references though, I'm not sure how much we can do.

There has been talk, from time to time, about federating spec
databases... I wonder if a microformat is the shortest path
to that target... it looks like http://microformats.org/wiki/citation
is still an ongoing concern, though moving slowly. I recently
tried using http://www.zotero.org/ (a firefox extension for
managing research bibliographies) and discovered that COINS
is pretty widely deployed. (not exactly my taste; the hello world
example from http://ocoins.info/ is:
<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%
3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.issn=1045-4438"></span> )


But as I recall, the main use case for cross-org spec databases
was to help with procurement... something like "show me standards
that help with supply chain management". Or something like that.
I forget the details.


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