- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:09:13 -0500
- To: Giovanni Campagna <scampa.giovanni@gmail.com>
- Cc: site-comments@w3.org
On 1 Jul 2009, at 2:56 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > 2009/7/1 Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>: >> >> On 1 Jul 2009, at 12:53 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: >> >>> I've been following the work on the new version of the W3C site >>> for a >>> while, and I noticed that almost all the WG home pages, as well as >>> other pages with dated URIs or other weirdness are not currently >>> working. >>> I expected that being caused by the refactoring and resulting into >>> new >>> sensible path component. I sent this email to make sure this >>> happens. >>> >>> As an example, now we have /Style/CSS for CSS WG, but /html/wg for >>> HTML WG and /2001/tag for the TAG or /2001/sw for the Semantic Web >>> Activity. >>> >>> I think there are three models to solve this: >>> 1- /WG/CSS, /TAG, /activities/SemanticWeb, /IG/Math, /XG/ >>> ModelBasedUI >>> I.e., one (virtual) directory for kind of group, followed by the >>> group >>> name >>> >>> 2- /Style/CSS, /TAG, /SemanticWeb/SWDeployment, /Markup/HTML, >>> /RWC/WebApps, /Incubator/ModelBasedUI >>> I.e. one (virtual) directory for Activity, followed by the group >>> name >>> >>> 3- /1996/CSS, /2001/TAG, /2001/SemanticWeb, /2007/HTML, /2008/ >>> WebApps, >>> /2008/ModelBasedUI, /2007/XHTML2 >>> I.e. the group name, associated with the year of start >>> >>> All group names should be consistenly CamelCased if possible (but I >>> know that W3C servers are case-instensitive) >>> >>> Of the three possibility, I personally favor number one, because >>> dropping the short name could bring to the list of currently active >>> working groups (one of the most difficult pages to reach, probably, >>> together with the list of TR ordered by working group). >>> Dropping the short name from 2 could give directly the activity >>> page, >>> but I suppose that every WG will keep a link to its Activity (and >>> every Activity to its Domain), and people often want to group by >>> technology, rather than by activity. >>> Option n°3 is the one I dislike most, because currently >>> http://www.w3.org/XXXX is member / team only and thus completely >>> useless. >>> >>> I know that the W3C has URI persistence policies, but you can still >>> keep the old link and set a 301 Moved Permantly redirect to the new >>> location. Also, most URIs are not covered by those policies. >> >> >> Hi Giovanni, >> >> While consistent URIs are nice, they should not be required. People >> should reach pages through search engines or by following links, not >> by having remember URIs. >> >> I hope that the new site makes it easier to find information, without >> needing >> to worry about URIs. >> >> _ Ian > > Most of time you need the same pages time over time, for example you > just need to check some WG's tracker or someother WG's blog. > In that case, you either use bookmarks, which may become too crowded > if you have to mantain a lot of addresses, or you manually type the > address. You shouldn't have to type addresses. > Normally, you just type few characters and the browser > automatically finds the complete URI from the history. > I personally type addresses everytime I need something at the www.w3.org > . I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the new site makes it possible for you to avoid typing URIs. > > In addition, you need to type URIs if you write them on emails, > twitters, et similia. It is easier to remember > <http://www.w3.org/Join/AsInvitedExpert> than > <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/ieapp/>, and sure you don't want to > say to your colleague "goto to w3c home page, type 'invited expert > application' in the search field and hope for the better" > > That was from an usability point of view. The other point is that it > looks better. Agreed that shorter is better. :) Ian > >>> >>> Hope that this proposal will be accepted, >>> >>> Giovanni Campagna >>> >>> PS: sending this because I saw >>> <http://beta.w3.org/2004/08/invexp.html> which should be >>> <http://beta.w3.org/Consortium/invexp> or >>> <http://beta.w3.org/Partecipation/invexp> (without the html suffix) >>> >> >> -- >> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ >> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 >> >> > > Giovanni > -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ Tel: +1 718 260 9447
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