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Re: compression of HTML would save a lot of money

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:39:09 -0400
To: "seekXL Suchmaschine - webmaster@seekxl.de" <info@seekxl.de>
Cc: site-comments@w3.org, w3c-ac-forum@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.ux69zjy4wxe0ny@widsith.local>
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:14:08 -0400, seekXL Suchmaschine -  
webmaster@seekxl.de <info@seekxl.de> wrote:

> Hi Charles,
>
> what do you think about costs/time for implementing this?

 From what I know of W3C (which is a reasonable amount), I am certain this  
will consume valuable time, and do not expect it to save any money (as  
noted by Ted already, and he is the one whose budget would be directly  
impacted).

I think if it is reasonably easy it is worth doing as part of showing how  
to make the web better for the world, but I agree with David that beyond  
that expression of desire, I think this can be safely left in the capable  
hands of them team to make an intelligent decision based on all the facts.

cheers

Chaals

> and markus wrote yesterday to Rotan:
>
>> Sounds tough, but I would prefer to 'motivate' this 1 out
>> of 1000 users to update his browser ...
>
> it sounds good to me...
>
> Best regards,
>
> SEEKXL.DE
> André Nowak
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>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:48:07 -0400, seekXL Suchmaschine -
>> webmaster@seekxl.de <info@seekxl.de> wrote:
>
>>> this is a good idea and easy to change @ Markus
>>>
>>> i agree with you and if we save money, i see no reasons why not
>
>> W3C would not save money. Instead, they would spend money on  
>> implementing
>> this. On the other hand, if it is cheap, then I think it would be nice  
>> to
>> see them do this and write about it. Given that infrastructure is
>> expensive, and people spend a lot of effort rambling about stuff like  
>> net
>> neutrality (aka my right to hog your infrastructure) it seems that  
>> showing
>> how to use less of the infrastructure in the first place is a worthwhile
>> example of "leading the web to its full potential".
>
>> cheers
>
>> Chaals
>
>>>> I have just noticed that we don't use HTML compression on our W3C
>>>> website.
>>>> If we would use e.g. GZIP, we could save a lot of traffic and money.
>>>
>>>> 3 examples:
>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/       46 kB
>>>> http://lists.w3.org/    227 kB
>>>> http://validator.w3.org/ 27 kB
>>>
>>>> I have just put these three html files on our test server and the  
>>>> result
>>>> confirmed that if we would deliver compressed files, the size would
>>>> somewhat
>>>> smaller and we could reduce our costs by saving cash:
>>>
>>>> * homepage compressed:          14 kB (-70 % traffic)
>>>> * lists homepage compressed:    23 kB (-90 % traffic)
>>>> * validator homepage compressed: 5 kB (-81 % traffic)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Looking at our financial situation, it would be phantastic if you  
>>>> could
>>>> reduce our traffic expenses by maybe -50 % (graphics would not be
>>>> concerned
>>>> by a compression).
>>>
>>>> If there are no 'political' reasons why it's not possible for us to  
>>>> use
>>>> compression, please check this idea with the server responsible.
>>>> When the traffic numbers are still around the same as last year (when  
>>>> I
>>>> proposed advertising to increase our revenues) I would guess that we
>>>> could
>>>> save as much traffic costs that we economize a 5 digit Euro/USD amount
>>>> per
>>>> year with compression.
>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>> FINANZNACHRICHTEN.DE
>>>> Markus Meister
>>>
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>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> SEEKXL.DE
>>> André Nowak
>>>
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