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Re: Solomon''s curse and search Bias

From: Thomas Passin <tpassin@tompassin.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 20:00:46 -0500
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You aren't giving enough consideration to two things:

1. These other areas - like the fiction by Cussler - might be just what 
someone else wants.  For example, someone who was told about the novel 
and wanted to know more.  Without more information in the query 
specification, how could any system possibly know what area *you* had in 
mind? I would expect the results to be ordered more or less in order of 
the number of searches that resulted in clicks fro more information, if 
the search query didn't specify anything more.  That seems to be what's 
happening in your example.

2. Tagging information by area/topic/etc is infernally hard as a general 
thing, and all search engines like Google's have to go on is the URL and 
text of a web page.  It's hard for people, and it's a lot harder to 
figure out how to write software to do it.  No wonder we don't have it yet.

So it's partly a user interface issue, but more deeply it's just really 
hard.


On 3/2/2019 10:07 PM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> 
> I wanted to share a concern, as I know posts gets read and issued picked 
> up and addressed in time
> 
> I searched Google today for Solomon Curse, trying to find some 
> references to some historical cause and conditions in the first house of 
> David - not in relation to a specific race, but more in relation to the 
> history of the modern world
> to see if anyone is following up the courses and recourses of history
> https://www.iep.utm.edu/vico/
> 
> 
> Well, I was shocked to see that the first page of results were all about 
> a book and its author, and nothing
> about history came up at all.  I had to add additional words to create 
> some context to dig up some
> historical references.
> 
> Just wanted to point out that I am very concerned about future 
> generations receiving a distorted
> version of history by heavily commercially biased search results when 
> typing some search terms and
> getting only/mostly the results from one entity, rather than a 
> representation of the plurality of meanings and contexts
> 
> Bias is a known problem in searches, however I was hoping that by now we 
> would have
> some mechanisms to reduce this bias? Doesn't look like it.
> 
> I hope that schema.org <http://schema.org> could help that by creating 
> metaschemas for disambiguation
> or other mechanism, such a representation of context which should 
> include at least
> two perspectives: the domain a search term is present, and the 
> time/chronology (to show which came first)
> 
>   Just a sunday morning note before digging in more confusing knowledge 
> from search results
> 
> PDM
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