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Re: Some notes about my new format

From: Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:44:24 +0100
Cc: SW-forum Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1DF5FCFE-41E2-4155-A3EB-E1073C069848@glasers.org>
To: Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru>
Hi Victor,
I think that if you are creating a world where URIs intentionally no longer identify things uniquely you have moved into a world that is no longer relevant to this list.

The only SemWeb-consistent reading I can make of your brief document about the Alex example is that you are using :Alex to be the set of people that have the URI :Alex (by construction).

I think I might understand what you want if you could elaborate what the Alex example looks like in your new language, please?
The example gets too complicated compared with the :Alex motivation, for me to work through.

In fact an RDF rendering of what I think you want is:

@prefix : <http://www.example.org/rdf#>.
:Alex :hasObject [
      :sex :male ;
:age 10 ].
:Alex :hasObject [
      :sex :female ;
:age 15 ].

You could of course define a new language as being the syntax for such an RDF graph, where perhaps URIs in the subject position always have an implied predicate of :hasObject, or whatever you want.

Hugh

On 14 Jul 2014, at 07:28, Ruben Verborgh <ruben.verborgh@ugent.be> wrote:

>> I've started to write about my new format alternative to RDF:
> 
> I'm afraid that your new format is not only different from RDF,
> but also different to practice on the Web in general:
> 
> "Now it is clear that these are two different Alexes
> (even despite they share the same object URL :Alex)."
>  http://freesoft.portonvictor.org/binaries/NLang.pdf
> 
> Having two different things identified by the same URL
> will be very hard to retrofit on today's Web.
> If I GET Alex' URL, which of two Alexes will I receive?
> 
> How would you make this compatible with the rest of the Web?
> 
> Ruben

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