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Re: ANN: The Vehicle Sales Ontology - Cars, Bikes, Boats on the Web of Data - http://purl.org/vso/ns

From: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:33:20 +0200
Cc: Frank Manola <fmanola@acm.org>, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, Michael F Uschold <uschold@gmail.com>, semantic-web@w3.org
Message-Id: <6DC4AC6C-EF76-481E-9EFE-DD842D6B16FF@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: Barry Norton <barry.norton@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Dear all:

> Re-reading Martin's descriptions I see another problem with paddle  
> surfboards - the paddle is one-sided, so (if modelled) would these  
> be a subclasses of canoes... therefore boats (unlike kayaks)?!
>
> Barry
Simply create a subclass barry:PaddleSurfboat rdfs:subClassOf  
vso:Watercraft, if needed.

I think it is important to stress for casual readers of this mailing  
list that we have entered into an academic discussion that is of  
unclear importance for actually building the Semantic Web.

Intellectually, I really enjoy the thread, but

1. there is no class for "paddle surfboats" in the Vehicle Sales  
Ontology (just vso:Watercraft)
2. as stressed, the relevance of recreational watercrafts for Semantic- 
Web-based e-commerce is limited.

At least they are not likely to be more important than car sales and  
rentals.

Google reports more than 3.7 Million Web documents for "Semantic Web",  
of that more than 230,000 in PDF (likely papers, technical reports,  
theses,...).

In contrast, there are less than 50 ontology namespaces used in more  
than 1,000 RDF documents (according to PTSW).

If ontologies, however lightweight or heavy-weight, are agreed to be  
essential for the Semantic Web to become a reality, then we will need  
way more efforts to produce and maintain those.

Best

Martin

PS: Funny thing: The original GoodRelations paper was rejected for  
ESWC 2008; the main argument was that "building an ontology is not  
really a relevant contribution". I guess I will post the paper and the  
reviews one day ;-)


On 09.09.2010, at 17:02, Barry Norton wrote:

> On 09/09/10 16:58, Frank Manola wrote:
>> For completeness, don't leave out "boats propelled by arm muscles  
>> holding a pole", as in punts (which you can find for sale) or the  
>> old-time keelboats (not likely to be a major article in commerce  
>> today).
>
> Propelled by a manual device? :)
>
> Re-reading Martin's descriptions I see another problem with paddle  
> surfboards - the paddle is one-sided, so (if modelled) would these  
> be a subclasses of canoes... therefore boats (unlike kayaks)?!
>
> Barry
>
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