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Re: Eating your own dog food and inviting others to dinner

From: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:25:41 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <22180.74621.qm@web113811.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Cc: semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
Melvin,

Thanks for pointing out the W3 Incubator Group and its reports. I had gotten so caught up in what interests groups and communities were looking into that I forgot the check the W3C itself.

Milton Ponson
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--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Eating your own dog food and inviting others to dinner
To: "ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program" <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
Cc: "semantic-web" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 1:27 AM



On 15 December 2010 02:22, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Melvin,

I wasn't thinking small community but communities up to the the size of mega cities (5-25 million people).


According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_social_networking_software most of the social networking engines do not support the semantic web.


Elgg supports FOAF and EAV.  There's a few sem web plugins.

Drupal 7 or status.net would be possible other choices.

There's openlink data spaces of course too. :)


I think you'd really probably need W3C + Interest groups + community groups to have any kind of reasonable community. 
 

So we do need to look further or build it ourselves.

Milton Ponson
GSM: +297 747 8280
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad

Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
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 development

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--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Eating your own dog food and inviting others to dinner
To: "ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program" <metadataportals@yahoo.com>

Cc: "semantic-web" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-lod@w3.org"
 <public-lod@w3.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 12:54 AM



On 14 December 2010 16:59, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:


Eating your own dog food and inviting others to dinner is not the exclusive domain of software engineers only, as I discovered when trying to come up with a new paradigm for building online communities with social search capabilities for selected sectors industry or civil society.



So it got me thinking about linked data and the semantic web, based on the contents I have seen in emails from the past two years from the two mailing lists fro the W3C to which I subscribe and read every single day



One of the biggest problems we seem to have in getting linked data and the semantic web to the main public is that "we" i.e. its promoters, aficionados, gurus and developers and dedicated users  are scattered all over the place and on the internet.



Has anyone ever given thought to creating a portal site, which combines some features of
 LinkedIn.com and Arxiv.org with online directories, product exhibits and a "social search engine"?

And of course there would be the links to everything.

And the whole darn thing would be an excellent launching pad for new start-ups and information hub for angel and corporate investors to hunt for new projects to fund.



Build it and they will come.

Is there any way we can get a collection of interested professionals, existing groups and initiatives together to dream up the design and blue print for such a thing and then build it?



I think I've heard it discussed before.  

I think elgg is a decent choice for a small to medium sized community:

http://elgg.org/



It's easy to get up and running, and there's plugins for WebID etc.  Getting people to sign up and to develop is always the tricky thing, tho.
 


Milton Ponson
GSM: +297 747 8280
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
Aruba, Dutch Caribbean


Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and repositories of data and information for sustainable development



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