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RE: need for open development of business object ontology?

From: Irene Celino <irene.celino@cefriel.it>
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:38 +0200
Message-ID: <BC2A72EEBE633E428490C4A8DA0FB0FCB64F19@liscio.cefriel.it>
To: "AJ Chen" <canovaj@gmail.com>
Cc: <semantic-web@w3.org>

Hi AJ,
Well, I completely agree with you that "data in semantic format must come first". However, from my (probably small) personal experience, I learnt that forcing someone to use a "semantic format" is not a good idea. Moreover, suggesting to an enterprise the use of an ontology defined by someone else is not always successful, because of resistance and IPR protection.

In my opinion, a better approach is to help organizations in designing ontologies of their domains, which reflect their needs and their "environments"; then, we can help them in migrating/converting their data by some automatic means into a "semantic format" in accordance with the ontologies.

For what regards already existing ontologies about products and services, I suggest you to take a look at Martin Hepp's work on eCl@ss (http://www.heppnetz.de/eclassowl/). 

Other good sources for general-purpose shared ontologies are SchemaWeb (http://www.schemaweb.info/) or search engines like Swoogle (http://swoogle.umbc.edu/).

Ciao,
Irene

Irene Celino
CEFRIEL Politecnico di Milano
Via Fucini, 2 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
phone: +39 0223954266
fax:   +39 0223954466
email: Irene.Celino@cefriel.it
web:   http://swa.cefriel.it 
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From: AJ Chen [mailto:canovaj@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 03:08
To: Irene Celino; semantic-web@w3.org
Subject: Re: need for open development of business object ontology?

Hi Irene,
Thanks for sharing your projects - great work! The semantic navigation engine based on SOIP-F is particularly intriguing. I can see many applications of it. 

To make semantic search useful, data in semantic format must come first. I wonder if you have any new approach to this problem.  Do you know any ontology for the information usually on a business web site, like product, service, technology, job, etc? To migrate a current web site to a semantic one, such ontology needs to be available. 

Thanks,
AJ
On 10/12/06, Irene Celino < irene.celino@cefriel.it > wrote:

Dear AJ,
I think that you could be interested in taking a look at SOIP-F ( http://seip.cefriel.it); we have been developing for some years a framework to support the development of Semantic Organizational Information Portals. 

We designed a minimalist portal ontology that contains information about navigation, access and presentation of contents within the portal. 
Each portal, therefore, offers access to the domain-specific knowledge base by mapping the portal ontology to the domain ontology.

More details can be found in: Celino, Della Valle "Multiple Vehicles for a Semantic Navigation across Hyper-environments", published at ESWC2005 (that you can download from http://swa.cefriel.it/Publications#soip-f_publications).

HTH,
Irene

Irene Celino
CEFRIEL Politecnico di Milano
Via Fucini, 2 - 20133 Milano (Italy) 
phone: +39 0223954266
fax: +39 0223954466
email: Irene.Celino@cefriel.it
web: http://swa.cefriel.it
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From: semantic-web-request@w3.org [mailto: semantic-web-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of AJ Chen
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 22:14 
To: semantic-web@w3.org
Subject: need for open development of business object ontology?

I see upgrade of business web site to take advantage of the emerging semantic web is a good application. It could become a potential driver for enterprises to publish data in semantic format. I also believe that wide adoption of such semantic upgrade requires a community-supported ontology, which ideally comes out of W3C. I would like to ask if any of you is interested in participating in developing such an ontology for enterprise web site. I guess it may trigger W3C to consider it as a potential task if there are sufficient interests. So, please make your voice heard regarding semantic web site ontology. 

AJ
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http://web2express.org 
Received on Friday, 13 October 2006 08:47:02 UTC

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