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  <h1>XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group
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  <h2>18 Sep 2007</h2>

  <p><a 
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Sep/0013.html">
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-irc">IRC 
log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>Frederick Hirsch</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Juan Carlos Cruellas</dd>
    </dl>
  </div>

  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">welcome</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">Introduction of members / roll
        call</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">action item review</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">xpointers</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">Section 3.3, Implicit/Explicit
        rules</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item06">Section 3.5 DNs</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item07">xml:id, :lang, ... implementation
        status</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item08">Best Practices</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item09">decryption transform</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item10">Recommendation for regression
        tests?</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item11">any other business</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
  </ul>
  <hr>

  <div class="meeting">
    <p class="phone">&nbsp;</p>

    <p class="phone">&nbsp;</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Date: 18
    September 2007</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Meeting: XML
    Security Maintenance Working Group Conference Call</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Scribe: Juan Carlos
    Cruellas</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>fjh</cite>&gt; Chair: Thomas
    Roessler</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; Agenda: <a 
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Sep/0013.html">
    
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Sep/0013.html</a></p>

    <p class="phone">TOPIC Administrativia</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> asks klanz2 on minutes
    version</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> he has sent already.</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> will approve next
    meeting<br>
    ... remind booking hotel for November plenary, as there is a
    deadline<br>
    ... 20(?) people at the workshop<br>
    ... there will be some slight changes in the final agenda.
    Somebody will not be able to attend</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>hal:</cite> requests shift in his
    presentation</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> anything else on
    workshop?</p>

    <h3 id="item03">action item review</h3>

    <p class="phone">action#26: is still open</p>

    <p class="phone">action#71: sean: still open.</p>
 
   <p class="phone">action#74: to no further progress.</p>

   <p class="phone">action#81: CLOSED.</p>

    <p class="phone">action#82: konrad plans to close it today.</p>

    <p class="phone">action#83: as above.</p>

    <p class="phone">action#90: closed</p>

    <p class="phone">action#91: closed</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> on xpointers...<br>
    ... would like to talk about certain URI fragments in the document.</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> review afterwards</p>

    <p class="phone">Juan Carlos: konrad, Sean and Juan Carlos coordinated
    incorporation of new material to the interop</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>scribe:</cite> document... from what I
    have seen we all have committed new versions to the cvs</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> the document contains
    enough information as to allow people to start doing
    interop<br>
    ... use firefox and they will get the output scroll
    bar...<br>
    ... they will get nicer view.</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTION#91: closed</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> we are allowed to
    introduce additional material if we identify it...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> do not see changes document that I
    made yesterday at the in the html document pointed by the url in the 
agendta</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ah, herte it is Add
    links to test signatures in sections 3.3.4.1 and 3.3.4.1.</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I'll do that now</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> transform the xml to html:
    konrad or jcc may do it.<br>
    ... konrad, could you please do it?</p>

    <p class="phone">action 92 sent that note, not feedback
    CLOSED</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTION#92: CLOSED</p>

    <p class="phone">action 93 konrad will do it today: OPEN</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTION-93 continued</p>

    <h3 id="item04">xpointers</h3>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> go to the html document
    testcases.html</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; built the document,
    sean check if your changes are there</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> some "#" missed when
    identifying values of URI fragments.</p>
 
   <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html">
    
http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html</a></p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; yes brich is
    right</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I'll just fix that
    now</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; SHOULD BE FIXED</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; @jcc done</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> this problem happens in all the 
test cases for
    xpointers using xpointer framework</p><a name="action05" 
id="action05"></a>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to fix the xpointers in the
    xpointer framework adding the missing "#" sign to the URI
    fragments [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Created
    ACTION-94 - Fix the xpointers in the xpointer framework adding
    the missing \"#\" sign to the URI fragments [on Konrad Lanz -
    due 2007-09-25].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> sean to generate new test signatures
    for xpointer [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Created
    ACTION-95 - Generate new test signatures for xpointer [on Sean
    Mullan - due 2007-09-25].</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> Second issue for xmlpointers 
test cases: unclear for xpointer
    framework test cases whether the canonincalization is 1.0 or
    1.1</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; well there is a
    RECOMMENDATION for c14n1.1 in the spec</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; in the section for
    reference generation</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>sean</cite>&gt; +1 to konrad</p>

    <p class="phone">"The ds:Reference for enveloped signatures will
    contain two Transform elements, namely; the enveloped signature
    transform and the one indicating canonical XML 1.0 (these test
    cases are not designed to deal with canonical XML 1.1). The
    ds:Reference for enveloping signatures will contain only the
    second one."</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> agreed</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> should not we have the same
    test cases for c14n1.1?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; updated '#' issues
    in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html#TestCases-SchemaBasedXPointers">
    
http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html#TestCases-SchemaBasedXPointers</a>
    press shift reload</p>

    <p class="phone">juan carlos: xpointer framework test cases
    were requested without looking at the cannonicalization...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> these test cases should use
    canonicalization 1.1</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; May I propose to use
    two references one using 1.0 and one using 1.1 if this has
    value in the defined testcases to demonstrate some
    difference</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; if not let's just
    use 1.1</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> should move away from
    1.0</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> worth to use both... in
    order to go deeper in behaviour.</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> people support using 1.1</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> support 1.1. Either one
    would be OK. Do not see difference in process</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> we agree that
    canonicalization 1.1 should be present</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; RESOLUTION: xpointer
    test cases to be changed to c14n 1.1</p><a name="action07" 
id="action07"></a>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to switch xpointer test cases
    to c14n1.1 [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Created
    ACTION-96 - Switch xpointer test cases to c14n1.1 [on Konrad
    Lanz - due 2007-09-25].</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; is the way the
    xpointer test cases are designed xml:base tested as well ?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I just looked into
    the cvs it is not have xml:base attributes</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; no that's it</p>

    <h3 id="item05">Section 3.3, Implicit/Explicit rules</h3>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/">http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/</a></p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> section 3.3</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> three new test cases
    checking implicit and explicit indication of canonicalization
    algorithms<br>
    ... some test that should use 1.1 actually do not mention any
    algorithm, which by defalut means that they use 1.0</p>

    <h3 id="item06">Section 3.5 DNs</h3>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/">http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/</a></p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html#TestCases-DistinguishedName">
    
http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html#TestCases-DistinguishedName</a></p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> the test cases for this
    part are completed<br>
    ... changed the way they were specified quite a bit and
    appreciate any comment on that...<br>
    ... for the second part implemented 3 of the cases that seem to
    be the most important ones...</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; Update to the
    XPointer test cases:</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; The ds:Reference for
    enveloped signatures will ebventually contain two Transform
    elements, namely; the enveloped signature transform and the
    conversion from node set data to octet stream (canonical XML
    1.1).</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> the rest seem not to
    explicitly check the RFCs but only thigns nice to test</p>

    <h3 id="item07">xml:id, :lang, ... implementation status</h3>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; same</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; not yet for xpointer
    and dname</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> dropped material on these
    test cases in the cvs</p>

    <p class="phone">bruce dropped signatures on xml:base and
    verified signatures from sean.</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>jcc:</cite> try to drop some material
    during this week</p>

    <h3 id="item08">Best Practices</h3>

    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> three months ago we
    discussed the DNs encoding and reversibility</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ed: encoding rules
    /issue of reversibility / security considerations /trying to
    get corrwect certificate</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ... are the
    reversibility issues</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ... sean &amp; ed:
    attrubute type makes a difference</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> sean mentioned some
    questions, like if the attributetype makes a difference and
    whether<br>
    ... there could be an attack on that...</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; could there be an
    attack, when a different certificate sneaks in</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> or you get a different
    certificate...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> does anyone follow the PKIX
    group progress?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>sean</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://www.imc.org/ietf-pkix/mail-archive/msg04986.html">http://www.imc.org/ietf-pkix/mail-archive/msg04986.html</a></p>

    <p class="phone">konrad updated the document in terms of
    xpointers</p>

    <p class="phone">juan carlos: should be considered in the
    future</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> substituion attacks could
    be possible...<br>
    ... strict rules for requesting certificates... should not this
    disminish the danger?</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>ed:</cite> it is also a matter of
    accuracy: with ASN1 you are exactly referring the right
    certificate...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrda:</cite> substitution attacks are
    managed outside XMLDSIG (XAdES, for instance ensure data from
    the certificate so that substitution may be detected)</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; dialing in again</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> review the whole RFC of
    encoding DNs...<br>
    ... what we are doing in XMLDSIG is requiriung reversibility to
    a spec that did not pursued tahat<br>
    ... we could come up witha mechanisms that grants that there is
    no loss of information in either way...</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; is this ismilar to
    xml encoding rules?</p>

    <p class="phone">next XMLDSIG versiohn should incorporate this
    feature</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt;
    s/isimilar/similar/</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>hal:</cite> in Web services security...
    referring to a certificate is not easy ... and doing a DN
    comparison is something commonly done...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> something to investigate in
    the next months to come</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>ed:</cite> interesting to explore this
    reversibility between ASN.1 and XML for DNs.</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> what I heard seems to go
    farther than best practices<br>
    ... and could be a relevant item for a future working group</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> will not be present in
    workshop but yes in November, in Boston</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; maybe its worth to
    point from the wiki to the minutes</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> should we add this into the
    wiki?</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>ed:</cite> enough with the minutes...we
    will have to deal with this in the future</p>

    <h3 id="item09">decryption transform</h3>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>esimon2</cite>&gt; I will be dialing
    into the WorkShop next week though I will not be there in
    person.</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Aug/0012.html">
    
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Aug/0012.html</a></p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; @ED, maybe you'd
    like to add the DNAME Reversibility topic here</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/CharterDevelopmentForSignatureEncryption">
    
http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/CharterDevelopmentForSignatureEncryption</a></p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> proposal for modifying
    decryption transform... hanging for number of days.. what
    people think?<br>
    ... any interest on that now?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; any, luck with alex
    sanin ?</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> as we have not been able ot
    progress on this issue it might happen that we drop the
    issue</p>


    <h3 id="item10">Recommendation for regression tests?</h3>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> come back to item 6<br>
    ... should interop progression tests? to incorporate xmlsig
    former tests conveniently updated?</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> almost impossible to
    update former tests in xmlsig for incorporating c14n1.1
    there</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>esimon2</cite>&gt; Thomas -- I keep
    getting cut off IRC; please send me the raw version after the
    meeting ends so I can write up something re the reversibility
    issue re Konrad's suggestion. Thanks, Ed</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> proposes to leave them as
    they are as legacy test cases</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> doable, they have tools
    that already created all of them<br>
    ... could modify them to nsert c14n1.1 in them...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> it could be useful</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> not sure...not familiar
    with these tests so not able to assess their difficulty</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> would not be expecting the
    others generatign signatures, but verifying them</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> agree with sean if we
    keep this informally.</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class="phone">jcc +1</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> sean could generate these
    signatures and verification test cases could be performed on
    them</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> will generate and drop them
    in the cvs</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> is it possible to know the
    format so that we may prepare the test framework?</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> propose to generate the
    merlin 23 signature (the big one) with the c14n11
    canonicalization there<br>
    ... only the big one, not the rest</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> sean mentioned some test
    cases that never were tested...would it be worth to do
    something on them at the interop?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; also for the ok if
    we have time list</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I can hear you
    okay</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> need for an agenda bit more
    formal</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; tlr: interop, any other
    business?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; frederick: other
    participants?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; klanz2: comment mailing
    list?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; tlr:
    public-xmlsec-comments</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; Action to tlr to
    create a small sction on the public page referring to the
    comments mailing list plus some list to relevant material</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTIONS: frederick to
    point addtl participants at comment mailing list</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> question on organizational
    issues.</p>

    <p class="phone">very few registration so far.</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; just me</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>scribe:</cite> who will be at the
    interop?</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>sean</cite>&gt; just me</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>jcc:</cite> only me</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; just me</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> thank you...that is
    enough</p>

    <h3 id="item11">any other business</h3>

    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> is there somewhere
    something of the type "must do" for the interop?<br>
    ... xml space attribute "must do", xpointers "may do"</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> the more we may bring the
    better</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; my "must-do"
    assumption was ID, SPACE, LANG, BASE</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> test cases using XSLT may
    put problems as XSLT itself is not mandatory</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> some test case that
    includes binary input in one of the transforms steps..</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> it has to be optional at
    the end of the day</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> the goal will be to have the
    things ready for progressing the canonicalization spec<br>
    ...tlr: no public report of the interop...</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; some interops publish
    only impl A, B, C...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> might be one way... although
    it will depend on the final result...<br>
    ... would not like to make a decission just now</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; we do need a certain
    number implementations and I'm confident we'll all be quite
    successful ...</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>jcc:</cite> proposes that everybody is
    free to decide whether is mentioned or not in the public
    report</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> need to think more about
    that: anonymous report as proposed by brich could be one
    way</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; positive</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; xmldsig/defCan-2 and
    xmldsig/defCan-3 contains an xslt transform and I'll put
    "(optional) " next to the test name</p>

    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> thank you everybody for
    attend the meeting.</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; bye bye, lookin
    forward</p>

    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; adjourned</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to fix the
  xpointers in the xpointer framework adding the missing "#" sign
  to the URI fragments [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br>

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to switch
  xpointer test cases to c14n1.1 [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br>

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> klaz2 to switch
  xpointer test cases to c14n1.1 [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br>

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> sean to generate
  new test signatures for xpointer [recorded in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br>

  &nbsp;<br>
  <strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> 81 to [recorded
  in <a 
href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br>

  &nbsp;<br>
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