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Re: 2007-09-18 Draft agenda

From: Frederick Hirsch <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:46:47 +0300
Message-Id: <B9819B87-CC7E-4259-8DA6-6CAF1061A2BD@nokia.com>
Cc: Frederick Hirsch <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>, XMLSec <public-xmlsec-maintwg@w3.org>
To: "ext Juan Carlos Cruellas" <cruellas@ac.upc.edu>

if these are minutes, can you please send as an attachment with new  
subject line?


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia


On Sep 18, 2007, at 6:14 PM, ext Juan Carlos Cruellas wrote:

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>  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
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>  <h1>XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group
>  Teleconference</h1>
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>  <h2>18 Sep 2007</h2>
>
>  <p><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec- 
> maintwg/2007Sep/0013.html">
>  Agenda</a></p>
>
>  <p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-irc">IRC  
> log</a></p>
>
>  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
>
>  <div class="intro">
>    <dl>
>      <dt>Present</dt>
>
>      <dt>Regrets</dt>
>
>      <dt>Chair</dt>
>
>      <dd>Frederick Hirsch</dd>
>
>      <dt>Scribe</dt>
>
>      <dd>Juan Carlos Cruellas</dd>
>    </dl>
>  </div>
>
>  <h2>Contents</h2>
>
>  <ul>
>    <li>
>      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
>
>      <ol>
>        <li><a href="#item01">welcome</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item02">Introduction of members / roll
>        call</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item03">action item review</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item04">xpointers</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item05">Section 3.3, Implicit/Explicit
>        rules</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item06">Section 3.5 DNs</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item07">xml:id, :lang, ... implementation
>        status</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item08">Best Practices</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item09">decryption transform</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item10">Recommendation for regression
>        tests?</a></li>
>
>        <li><a href="#item11">any other business</a></li>
>      </ol>
>    </li>
>
>    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
>  </ul>
>  <hr>
>
>  <div class="meeting">
>    <p class="phone">&nbsp;</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">&nbsp;</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Date: 18
>    September 2007</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Meeting: XML
>    Security Maintenance Working Group Conference Call</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Scribe: Juan Carlos
>    Cruellas</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>fjh</cite>&gt; Chair: Thomas
>    Roessler</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; Agenda: <a href="http:// 
> lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Sep/0013.html">
>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/ 
> 2007Sep/0013.html</a></p>
>
>    <p class="phone">TOPIC Administrativia</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> asks klanz2 on minutes
>    version</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> he has sent already.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> will approve next
>    meeting<br>
>    ... remind booking hotel for November plenary, as there is a
>    deadline<br>
>    ... 20(?) people at the workshop<br>
>    ... there will be some slight changes in the final agenda.
>    Somebody will not be able to attend</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>hal:</cite> requests shift in his
>    presentation</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> anything else on
>    workshop?</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item03">action item review</h3>
>
>    <p class="phone">action#26: is still open</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action#71: sean: still open.</p>
>   <p class="phone">action#74: to no further progress.</p>
>
>   <p class="phone">action#81: CLOSED.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action#82: konrad plans to close it today.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action#83: as above.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action#90: closed</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action#91: closed</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> on xpointers...<br>
>    ... would like to talk about certain URI fragments in the  
> document.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> review afterwards</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">Juan Carlos: konrad, Sean and Juan Carlos  
> coordinated
>    incorporation of new material to the interop</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>scribe:</cite> document... from what I
>    have seen we all have committed new versions to the cvs</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> the document contains
>    enough information as to allow people to start doing
>    interop<br>
>    ... use firefox and they will get the output scroll
>    bar...<br>
>    ... they will get nicer view.</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTION#91: closed</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> we are allowed to
>    introduce additional material if we identify it...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> do not see changes document  
> that I
>    made yesterday at the in the html document pointed by the url in  
> the agendta</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ah, herte it is Add
>    links to test signatures in sections 3.3.4.1 and 3.3.4.1.</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I'll do that now</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> transform the xml to html:
>    konrad or jcc may do it.<br>
>    ... konrad, could you please do it?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action 92 sent that note, not feedback
>    CLOSED</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTION#92: CLOSED</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">action 93 konrad will do it today: OPEN</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTION-93 continued</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item04">xpointers</h3>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> go to the html document
>    testcases.html</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; built the document,
>    sean check if your changes are there</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> some "#" missed when
>    identifying values of URI fragments.</p>
>   <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html">
>    http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/ 
> testcases.html</a></p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; yes brich is
>    right</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I'll just fix that
>    now</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; SHOULD BE FIXED</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; @jcc done</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> this problem happens in all  
> the test cases for
>    xpointers using xpointer framework</p><a name="action05"  
> id="action05"></a>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
>    <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to fix the xpointers in the
>    xpointer framework adding the missing "#" sign to the URI
>    fragments [recorded in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18- 
> xmlsec-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec- 
> minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Created
>    ACTION-94 - Fix the xpointers in the xpointer framework adding
>    the missing \"#\" sign to the URI fragments [on Konrad Lanz -
>    due 2007-09-25].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt;
>    <strong>ACTION:</strong> sean to generate new test signatures
>    for xpointer [recorded in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18- 
> xmlsec-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec- 
> minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Created
>    ACTION-95 - Generate new test signatures for xpointer [on Sean
>    Mullan - due 2007-09-25].</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> Second issue for  
> xmlpointers test cases: unclear for xpointer
>    framework test cases whether the canonincalization is 1.0 or
>    1.1</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; well there is a
>    RECOMMENDATION for c14n1.1 in the spec</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; in the section for
>    reference generation</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>sean</cite>&gt; +1 to konrad</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">"The ds:Reference for enveloped signatures will
>    contain two Transform elements, namely; the enveloped signature
>    transform and the one indicating canonical XML 1.0 (these test
>    cases are not designed to deal with canonical XML 1.1). The
>    ds:Reference for enveloping signatures will contain only the
>    second one."</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> agreed</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> should not we have the same
>    test cases for c14n1.1?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; updated '#' issues
>    in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop- 
> doc/testcases.html#TestCases-SchemaBasedXPointers">
>    http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/ 
> testcases.html#TestCases-SchemaBasedXPointers</a>
>    press shift reload</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">juan carlos: xpointer framework test cases
>    were requested without looking at the cannonicalization...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> these test cases should use
>    canonicalization 1.1</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; May I propose to use
>    two references one using 1.0 and one using 1.1 if this has
>    value in the defined testcases to demonstrate some
>    difference</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; if not let's just
>    use 1.1</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> should move away from
>    1.0</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> worth to use both... in
>    order to go deeper in behaviour.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> people support using 1.1</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> support 1.1. Either one
>    would be OK. Do not see difference in process</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> we agree that
>    canonicalization 1.1 should be present</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; RESOLUTION: xpointer
>    test cases to be changed to c14n 1.1</p><a name="action07"  
> id="action07"></a>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
>    <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to switch xpointer test cases
>    to c14n1.1 [recorded in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18- 
> xmlsec-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec- 
> minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot-ng</cite>&gt; Created
>    ACTION-96 - Switch xpointer test cases to c14n1.1 [on Konrad
>    Lanz - due 2007-09-25].</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; is the way the
>    xpointer test cases are designed xml:base tested as well ?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I just looked into
>    the cvs it is not have xml:base attributes</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; no that's it</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item05">Section 3.3, Implicit/Explicit rules</h3>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/">http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/</a></p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> section 3.3</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> three new test cases
>    checking implicit and explicit indication of canonicalization
>    algorithms<br>
>    ... some test that should use 1.1 actually do not mention any
>    algorithm, which by defalut means that they use 1.0</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item06">Section 3.5 DNs</h3>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/">http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/</a></p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/ 
> testcases.html#TestCases-DistinguishedName">
>    http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/ 
> testcases.html#TestCases-DistinguishedName</a></p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> the test cases for this
>    part are completed<br>
>    ... changed the way they were specified quite a bit and
>    appreciate any comment on that...<br>
>    ... for the second part implemented 3 of the cases that seem to
>    be the most important ones...</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; Update to the
>    XPointer test cases:</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; The ds:Reference for
>    enveloped signatures will ebventually contain two Transform
>    elements, namely; the enveloped signature transform and the
>    conversion from node set data to octet stream (canonical XML
>    1.1).</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> the rest seem not to
>    explicitly check the RFCs but only thigns nice to test</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item07">xml:id, :lang, ... implementation status</h3>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; same</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; not yet for xpointer
>    and dname</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> dropped material on these
>    test cases in the cvs</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">bruce dropped signatures on xml:base and
>    verified signatures from sean.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>jcc:</cite> try to drop some material
>    during this week</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item08">Best Practices</h3>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> three months ago we
>    discussed the DNs encoding and reversibility</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ed: encoding rules
>    /issue of reversibility / security considerations /trying to
>    get corrwect certificate</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ... are the
>    reversibility issues</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; ... sean &amp; ed:
>    attrubute type makes a difference</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> sean mentioned some
>    questions, like if the attributetype makes a difference and
>    whether<br>
>    ... there could be an attack on that...</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; could there be an
>    attack, when a different certificate sneaks in</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> or you get a different
>    certificate...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> does anyone follow the PKIX
>    group progress?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>sean</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> www.imc.org/ietf-pkix/mail-archive/msg04986.html">http:// 
> www.imc.org/ietf-pkix/mail-archive/msg04986.html</a></p>
>
>    <p class="phone">konrad updated the document in terms of
>    xpointers</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">juan carlos: should be considered in the
>    future</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> substituion attacks could
>    be possible...<br>
>    ... strict rules for requesting certificates... should not this
>    disminish the danger?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>ed:</cite> it is also a matter of
>    accuracy: with ASN1 you are exactly referring the right
>    certificate...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrda:</cite> substitution attacks are
>    managed outside XMLDSIG (XAdES, for instance ensure data from
>    the certificate so that substitution may be detected)</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; dialing in again</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> review the whole RFC of
>    encoding DNs...<br>
>    ... what we are doing in XMLDSIG is requiriung reversibility to
>    a spec that did not pursued tahat<br>
>    ... we could come up witha mechanisms that grants that there is
>    no loss of information in either way...</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; is this ismilar to
>    xml encoding rules?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">next XMLDSIG versiohn should incorporate this
>    feature</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt;
>    s/isimilar/similar/</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>hal:</cite> in Web services security...
>    referring to a certificate is not easy ... and doing a DN
>    comparison is something commonly done...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> something to investigate in
>    the next months to come</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>ed:</cite> interesting to explore this
>    reversibility between ASN.1 and XML for DNs.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> what I heard seems to go
>    farther than best practices<br>
>    ... and could be a relevant item for a future working group</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>esimon2:</cite> will not be present in
>    workshop but yes in November, in Boston</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; maybe its worth to
>    point from the wiki to the minutes</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> should we add this into the
>    wiki?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>ed:</cite> enough with the minutes...we
>    will have to deal with this in the future</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item09">decryption transform</h3>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>esimon2</cite>&gt; I will be dialing
>    into the WorkShop next week though I will not be there in
>    person.</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Aug/0012.html">
>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/ 
> 2007Aug/0012.html</a></p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; @ED, maybe you'd
>    like to add the DNAME Reversibility topic here</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/CharterDevelopmentForSignatureEncryption">
>    http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/ 
> CharterDevelopmentForSignatureEncryption</a></p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> proposal for modifying
>    decryption transform... hanging for number of days.. what
>    people think?<br>
>    ... any interest on that now?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; any, luck with alex
>    sanin ?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> as we have not been able ot
>    progress on this issue it might happen that we drop the
>    issue</p>
>
>
>    <h3 id="item10">Recommendation for regression tests?</h3>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> come back to item 6<br>
>    ... should interop progression tests? to incorporate xmlsig
>    former tests conveniently updated?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> almost impossible to
>    update former tests in xmlsig for incorporating c14n1.1
>    there</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>esimon2</cite>&gt; Thomas -- I keep
>    getting cut off IRC; please send me the raw version after the
>    meeting ends so I can write up something re the reversibility
>    issue re Konrad's suggestion. Thanks, Ed</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> proposes to leave them as
>    they are as legacy test cases</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> doable, they have tools
>    that already created all of them<br>
>    ... could modify them to nsert c14n1.1 in them...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> it could be useful</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> not sure...not familiar
>    with these tests so not able to assess their difficulty</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> would not be expecting the
>    others generatign signatures, but verifying them</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> agree with sean if we
>    keep this informally.</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; +1</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">jcc +1</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> sean could generate these
>    signatures and verification test cases could be performed on
>    them</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> will generate and drop them
>    in the cvs</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> is it possible to know the
>    format so that we may prepare the test framework?</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> propose to generate the
>    merlin 23 signature (the big one) with the c14n11
>    canonicalization there<br>
>    ... only the big one, not the rest</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> sean mentioned some test
>    cases that never were tested...would it be worth to do
>    something on them at the interop?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; also for the ok if
>    we have time list</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; I can hear you
>    okay</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> need for an agenda bit more
>    formal</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; tlr: interop, any other
>    business?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; frederick: other
>    participants?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; klanz2: comment mailing
>    list?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; tlr:
>    public-xmlsec-comments</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; Action to tlr to
>    create a small sction on the public page referring to the
>    comments mailing list plus some list to relevant material</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; ACTIONS: frederick to
>    point addtl participants at comment mailing list</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> question on organizational
>    issues.</p>
>
>    <p class="phone">very few registration so far.</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; just me</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>scribe:</cite> who will be at the
>    interop?</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>sean</cite>&gt; just me</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>jcc:</cite> only me</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; just me</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> thank you...that is
>    enough</p>
>
>    <h3 id="item11">any other business</h3>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>bruce:</cite> is there somewhere
>    something of the type "must do" for the interop?<br>
>    ... xml space attribute "must do", xpointers "may do"</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> the more we may bring the
>    better</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; my "must-do"
>    assumption was ID, SPACE, LANG, BASE</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> test cases using XSLT may
>    put problems as XSLT itself is not mandatory</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>konrad:</cite> some test case that
>    includes binary input in one of the transforms steps..</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>sean:</cite> it has to be optional at
>    the end of the day</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> the goal will be to have the
>    things ready for progressing the canonicalization spec<br>
>    ...tlr: no public report of the interop...</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>brich</cite>&gt; some interops publish
>    only impl A, B, C...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> might be one way... although
>    it will depend on the final result...<br>
>    ... would not like to make a decission just now</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; we do need a certain
>    number implementations and I'm confident we'll all be quite
>    successful ...</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>jcc:</cite> proposes that everybody is
>    free to decide whether is mentioned or not in the public
>    report</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> need to think more about
>    that: anonymous report as proposed by brich could be one
>    way</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; positive</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; xmldsig/defCan-2 and
>    xmldsig/defCan-3 contains an xslt transform and I'll put
>    "(optional) " next to the test name</p>
>
>    <p class="phone"><cite>tlr:</cite> thank you everybody for
>    attend the meeting.</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>klanz2</cite>&gt; bye bye, lookin
>    forward</p>
>
>    <p class="irc">&lt;<cite>tlr</cite>&gt; adjourned</p>
>  </div>
>
>  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
>  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
>
>  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to fix the
>  xpointers in the xpointer framework adding the missing "#" sign
>  to the URI fragments [recorded in <a href="http://www.w3.org/ 
> 2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/ 
> 2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br>
>
>  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> klanz2 to switch
>  xpointer test cases to c14n1.1 [recorded in <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08">http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br>
>
>  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> klaz2 to switch
>  xpointer test cases to c14n1.1 [recorded in <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action07">http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br>
>
>  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> sean to generate
>  new test signatures for xpointer [recorded in <a href="http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06">http:// 
> www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br>
>
>  &nbsp;<br>
>  <strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> 81 to [recorded
>  in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec- 
> minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-xmlsec- 
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>
>  &nbsp;<br>
>  [End of minutes]<br>
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