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Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 March 26

From: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:22:00 -0400
To: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org
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/ "Grosso, Paul" <pgrosso@ptc.com> was heard to say:
| Minutes
| =======

Chair: Norm

Regrets: Paul

Roll call: Norm, Glenn, Richard, Henry, Daniel, John, Konrad

| 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
|    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
|    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

| 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
|
| October Technical Plenary
| -------------------------
| The next Technical Plenary is scheduled for October in Cannes:
| http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html
| We have tentatively decided to meet there.
|
| 3.  C14N 
|
| The C14N 1.1 PR has been published:
| http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-xml-c14n11-20080129/
|
| Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0) WG Note 
| has been published at
| http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-C14N-issues-20061220/
|
| Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment 
| WG Note has been published at
| http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-DSig-usage-20061220/

Ok.

| 4.  XML 1.0 5th Edition
|
| The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
|  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/

Henry reports that we've had a modest amount of feedback in the first
week, all of it positive.

Henry will remind Philippe to request additional feedback at the AC
meeting in April.

The voting period ends on 16 May.

| 5.  XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
|
|  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)
|  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816
|
|  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
|  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816
|
| Henry/Richard discussed the test suite issues raised by Frans Englich:
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
|
| These need to be resolved. 
|
| Richard reports that the 2005 issue has been resolved in the 
| latest draft. 
|
| The one from 2006, character references with numbers with 
| dozens of digits, may not be. 
|
| ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues.

Continued.

| At some point in the future (e.g., six months after XML 1.0 5th
| Edition is a Recommendation) we might consider deprecating XML 1.1.
|
| 6. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
|
|  Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
|  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816
|
|  Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
|  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816
|
| Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at
| http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE27
|
| ACTION to Richard:  Look into Anne's (two) comments at
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2007Oct/

Continued.

| We discussed processing an erratum to NS 1.0 that adds the 
| ability to undeclare a namespace prefix in NS 1.0.
|
| We could probably make NS 1.0 a copy of NS 1.1 with appropriate
| minor changes.
|
| 7.  LEIRIs
|
| Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
| http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt
|
| Martin's latest email is at
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0042
|
| Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045

Ok. Nothing new to say this week.

Henry suggests that if we don't hear from Martin soon we should push
back a little on the things that might slow it down.

| 8.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER
|
| The (second) XML Base (Second Edition) PER has been published at
| http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xmlbase-20080320/
| and announced at
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008JanMar/0112
|
| Before we go to REC, Ian Jacobs has requested that we remove 
| all the 'in your face' URIs from the SotD.

Richard observes that some of them are in sentences that will be
removed before we go to Rec. Henry concurs that we should remove them.

| 9.  XLink update.
|
| The XLink CR was published at
| http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
|
| We decided the next step would be another LC.
|
| Norm provided an update at
| http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/ and
| http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/Overview-diff.html
|
| John suggests we have two levels of conformance at
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Feb/0044
|
| ACTION to Norm:  Amend section 3.3 to reflect two levels of
| application conformance, simple and complete.

Completed.

Paul has commented,

  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Mar/0048.html

Paul has some comments about conformance that I'd like to take as
editorial.

No objections.

| We will plan to approve going to LC during our next telcon.

Proposed: We will publish the current draft, perhaps with a few
editorial changes, as a last call working draft.

Accepted.

ACTION: Norm to work with Paul to see that the XLink draft is published

| We plan to skip CR this time.
|
| Paul sent out an announcement about our upcoming plans at
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008JanMar/0081
|
| Note: There is a publication moratorium April 15-28.
|
| 10.  XInclude 3rd Edition
|
| XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
| http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
|
| LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition:
|
| 3.1, href attribute is a LEIRI
|
| See also 4.1.1 (details TBD) which can't reference XML 1.1
| since we don't define XML Resource Identifiers in XML 1.1.
| Just replace that para with the "They are LEIRIs" para.
|
| See also
| http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0007
| for more details on the necessary changes.
|
| ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
| with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.

Continued.

Richard observes that it can't become a PER before the RFC, so there's
no hurry.

| [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
| [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
| [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Mar/0012

11. Any other business?

None.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

-- 
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | What is familiar is what we are used
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