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Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 June 18

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:35:51 -0400
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Attendees
---------
Konrad   xx:10
Glenn
Norm
Paul 
Henry 

[5 organizations (6 with proxies) present out of 9]

Regrets
------- 
Richard, proxy to Henry

Absent organizations
--------------------
Google
Univ of Edinburgh (with regrets, proxy to Henry)
François Yergeau
Daniel Veillard


Henry uncertain for July 2.


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> October Technical Plenary
> -------------------------
> The next Technical Plenary is scheduled for October in Cannes:
> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html
> We have tentatively decided to meet there.
> 
> The schedule is at: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule.html

XML Core meets Monday and Tuesday.

> 
> Registration for the October TPAC2008: Combined Technical 
> Plenary and Advisory Committee Meeting is now open at 
> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/. 
> Registration will close on 28 September, but the discount 
> rate for hotel rooms will expire as of 8 September 2008.
> 

Probable attendees:  Henry, Norm, Richard
Quite unlikely:  Glenn, Francois
Uncertain:  Konrad (but unlikely), John, Daniel, Paul


> 
> 3.  C14N 1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#c14n1.1
> 
> The C14N 1.1 Recommendation has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-c14n11-20080502/
> 
> Konrad reports that there is an error in the last example.
> 
> ACTION to Konrad:  Send email to the 
> www-xml-canonicalization-comments@w3.org list about
> the error in the last example of C14N 1.1.

Konrad sent email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-canonicalization-comments/2008Jun/0000

> 
> Paul wonders, though, how to handle errata to C14N 1.1
> now that the XML Security Working Group is taking over
> that spec.  Perhaps we should just make sure they are
> tracking the www-xml-canonicalization-comments@w3.org list.

We will let the XML Sec WG handle errata for C14N 1.1,
so there is no action here for us.

> 
> 
> 4.  XML 1.0
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata
> 
> The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/
> 
> The PER period ended 16 May 2008. 
> 
> We need to have at least three implementations that 
> pass the test suite for each of the errata that have 
> been newly applied to the 5th Edition. 
> 
> A preliminary implementation report is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation
> 
> A not-yet-released verion of RXP 1.5 passes all the tests 
> for errata to the 4th edition.
> 
> Do we need an additional test about version=1.7 documents?

Paul thinks we do need that test.

ACTION to Richard, Henry:  Add a test to the XML 1.0 5th Ed 
Test Suite about version=1.7 documents.

> 
> Intel has developed an internal implementation of the 
> XML 1.0 Fifth Edition PER that passes the 20080205 test suite.
> 
> DV hasn't done the changes yet, but he does plan to do so.
> 
> ACTION to Glenn:  Check with Apache folks on status of
> implementing XML 1.0 5th Edition.

ACTION to Glenn ongoing.

ACTION to Norm:  Check with Sun if the JAXP TCK includes 
tests which fail if you implement the 5th Ed and if so 
whether we can get a blanket exclusion from Sun for those 
tests.

> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Check with Microsoft on status of
> implementing XML 1.0 5th Edition.

MS is behind the idea, but not likely to release before
it is a Rec.

> 
> ACTION to Norm: Check with the Sun folks on status of
> implementing XML 1.0 5th edition.

It might happen if the Apache folks do it, but otherwise
not likely. 

---

If we get DV's implementation, then along with RXP and
Intel, we should have our three implementations.

> 
> 
> 5.  XML 1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml1.1
> 
> XML 1.1 2nd Edition published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816
> 
> 
> 6.  XML Test Suite.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
> 
> Henry/Richard discussed some test suite issues raised by 
> Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
> 
> ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues.
> 
> 
> 7.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0 and
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.
> 
> 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816
> 
> Richard has updated the NS PE doc at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata
> 
> But it still lacks Resolutions for NPE27-30, though I
> believe we have agreement on what to do at least in general
> (though we should check, especially on NPE29).

ACTION to Richard:  Fill in proposed resolutions for NPE27-30.

> 
> 
> 8.  LEIRIs
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
> 
> Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt
> 
> Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Do some pinging about the schedule of IRI bis.

ACTION to Henry continued.

> 
> 
> 9.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base
> 
> The (second) XML Base (Second Edition) PER has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xmlbase-20080320/
> and announced at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008JanMar/0112
> 
> The XML Base PER review period ends 30 June 2008.
> 
> 
> 10.  XLink update.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1
> 
> The earlier XLink CR was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
> 
> The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/
> and announced at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Apr/0006
> 
> The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.
> 
> Norm has prepared a DoC at 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/
> 
> ACTION to Henry and Norm:  Figure out how to get the XSD for
> XLink at an accessible URI.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Compare the XSD for XLink at 
> http://schemas.opengis.net/xlink/1.0.0/xlinks.xsd
> with that in the XLink spec.
> 

ACTIONs to Henry and Norm continued.

Once we handle the XSD issues, we should be ready for
the next step.

Paul asks us to consider skipping CR and going directly
to PR.

ACTION to Henry:  Review the history and make a recommendation
as to whether we should skip CR and go directly to PR.

> 
> 11.  XInclude 3rd Edition
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
> 
> XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
> 
> See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude for
> LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition.
> 
> ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
> with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jun/0001
> 
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