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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2006 March 29

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:27:40 -0500
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
March 29, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          16:00-17:00 UTC
          17:00-18:00 in Ireland and the UK
          18:00-19:00 in middle (most of) Europe
          21:30-22:30 in most of India
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

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NOTE:  The UK and Europe have gone to Summer (Daylight)
time this past weekend, but the US has not, and
our telcon is held at Boston time.

Therefore, if you are calling from outside the US and
you have just switched to daylight time, you will have
to call one hour *later* than usual for the telcon of
March 29.  We should be back in sync for the following
week after US starts its daylight time this weekend.

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Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

2a.  We discussed the future of the XML Core WG at our f2f at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml-f2f-20060302-minutes.htm#futures

The WG had CONSENSUS with the decision taken at the f2f
which was to write our new (post June) charter to finish 
up what we are doing and maintaining the existing specs 
without adding anything new.  We would plan to have telcons 
reduced to once a month.  

Paul informed the XML CG of this decision:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2006Mar/0001

Ongoing ACTION to Paul, Norm, Henry:  Implement this 
decision in the upcoming new WG charter.

ACTION to Paul: Draft a new charter.


2b.  Norm asked the WG to review RDF/A Primer 1.0 [11] with 
particular attention to Section 4.4 [12].

JohnC replied at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0061


2c.  TAG's Disposition of Names in an XML Namespace:
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/02/namespaceState/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-20060223/

François had comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0059

JohnC had comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0060


3.  C14N 

Glenn created an editor's draft of C14N 1.1 which is up at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/WD-xml-c14n11

We had some discussion at the f2f--see
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml-f2f-20060302-minutes.htm#c14n

At the f2f, we decided to produce a W3C WG Note documenting 
the current situation and issues and problems.

Thomas posted his f2f notes at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0026

ACTION to Thomas and John: Generate a draft of the Note.

Konrad was on the call last week and raised the issue 
of how to handle xml:base for C14N.  He felt that
one can handle xml:base appropriately for C14N.

Henry suggests we can use the defn of the baseURI
property to define how to handle xml:base in C14N.

We discussed details of how we might be able to
handle xml:base in C14N, pointing out that the
algorithm for handling xml:base cannot be concatenation.

Q: If you want to join two relative URIs is it the same 
as the merge path function? Or how should it work?

Konrad drafted an email explaining our requirements and 
asking our question:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0058

Given no negative responses to date:

ACTION to Konrad (today):  Post that
email to public-ietf-w3c@w3.org and uri-ig@w3.org.


4.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs.

At the f2f, we had CONSENSUS to change the 
xml:base spec to make it clear we allow IRIs as the 
value of xml:base. We also want to allow IRIs in the 
infoset [baseURI] information item.

One paragraph in the Infoset says the baseURI may
have unescaped characters, but elsewhere it says
the baseURI follows XML Base which points to RFC 2396.
If we change XML Base, we shouldn't have to change
the Infoset spec much.


5.  XLink update.

We had a CR telcon March 21.  We will go to CR.  Norm
has generated a test suite.  We should be in the process
of getting a Director's decision and publishing it.


6. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public)
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

Re. PE 148, Henry posted a version for 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml11-20060222.xml 

ACTION to Francois:  Merge the mustifications into XML 1.0.

We resolved some other PE at the f2f.

We decided to resolve PE140 by saying that we have 
fiddled this wording enough and we aren't going to 
fiddle it any more for fear of making it worse.

We decided to resolve PE142 by saying that we have 
fiddled this wording enough and we aren't going to 
fiddle it any more for fear of making it worse.

ACTION to François: Update the PE document accordingly
for PE 140 and 142.

We note that the resolution to PE141 has already made 
a wording change in this area, but Richard pointed out  
that the wording should be:

  In a document with an external subset or parameter
  entity references...

(no "external").

That is, we made a mistake in the earlier resolution
of PE141.  We should update the resolution of PE141
to read as shown above.

ACTION to Francois:  Update the PE and Errata documents.

With respect to PE143, after production [60], we should 
add a reference to the "No External Entity References" WFC.

ACTION to François: Update the Errata and PE document 
accordingly for PE143.


7. Namespaces in XML.

Richard suggested we take NS 1.1 and revert the two 
substantive changes (IRI and undeclared namespaces) 
to create NS 1.0 2nd Ed. The WG has consensus to do 
that, and we got approval from the team to do so.

ACTION to Richard: Draft the 2nd edition of NS 1.0 
per the above plan (perhaps by creating a single XML 
source document for 1.0 and 1.1 using some conditionals).

ACTION to Richard: Draft a NS 1.1 2nd Edition including 
this IRI work and the outstanding NS 1.1 errata which, to 
date, includes only the issue about preventing abuses of xmlns.

Richard made a start and sent email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0043

He will make a diff between 1.1 and 1.0 2nd Ed. 

We will have an appendix in 1.0 explaining the diffs 
between 1.0 1st Ed and 1.0 2nd Ed. (It will be the 
appendix from 1.1 minus the 1.1-specific changes.)


8. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/

Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata

Daniel has updated the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata 

ACTION to Daniel: Update the PE about IRIs for XInclude.

ACTION to Daniel: Draft XInclude 2nd Edition with all 
the errata (including the IRI one) applied.


9.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.


10.  Henry raises that RFC 3023 is out of date and the draft
replacement has expired.  Henry says there is a new draft
expected soon (Murata-san will send something to Chris to
publish soon).  

Chris is still hoping that he and Murata will be able
to publish a new ID for 3023bis soon.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0051
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
[11] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/ 
[12] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/#id69192 
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