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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2006 December 20

From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:09:39 -0500
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
December 20, from
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We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

The QA working group asked Ian Hickson of the Web Application 
Formats WG to request that the XML Core working group review 
the XBL2 specification that is currently in Last Call:

Editor's copy (more up to date)
Snapshot for TR page (last call version; outdated)

fwiw, here are a few reviews/notes one might want to
read for some other XML Activity members' thoughts:


ACTION to Norm:  Review this WD.


Issue on attribute canonicalization raised by Norm at
and by Eric Prud'hommeaux at

We figure if this is RDF's way to quote attributes, 
it's fine with us, as it's RDF-specific.

ACTION to Norm:  Reply to Eric with this and see if we've
misunderstood something.

3.  C14N 

Our three C14N documents had been first published in September:

Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0)
     W3C Working Draft 15 September 2006
This version:
Latest version:

Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment
     W3C Working Draft 15 September 2006
This version:
Latest version:

Canonical XML1.1
     W3C Working Draft 15 September 2006
This version:
Latest version:


The C14N 1.1 LC and the updated version of the Notes are due to
be published December 20th per the publication request at

4.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs.

The latest draft is at
and this has been announced to the W3C and the public, e.g.:

We had a successful PER telcon, and the pub request for the PER was sent
and it is supposed to be published December 20.

5.  XLink update.

The XLink CR was published at

Paul wrote a draft PR request at

Norm posted a DoC at

ACTION to Norm:  Update the DoC to remove the two non-XLink comments.

ACTION to Norm:  Follow up in email on:
XLink conformance criteria question, Boris Zbarsky 

ACTION to Norm:  Post to the WG mailing list something to
show that any valid XLink 1.1 document can be programmatically 
converted into an equivalent XLink 1.0 document.

ACTION to Norm:  Provide a few more tests for the test suite.

The old version XLink in section 5.5, we talk about values
of href attributes.

In the new version, we talk about IRIs and XML Resource 
Identifiers and other ways of encoding.  So it's unclear
now what to do about spaces in href attributes.  Compare
http://www.w3.org/TR/xlink11/#link-semantics and the
wording above it in section 5.4.1 at

Norm thinks instead of spaces, we should now say non-URI

ACTION to Norm:  Make a suggestion how best to fix this.

Also, nowhere do we say that conversion from an XML Resource
Identifier to an IRI must occur as late as possible.
Suggested new wording:

 If required, the IRI reference resulting from converting
 an XML Resource Identifier can be converted to a
 URI reference by following the prescriptions of
 Section 3.1 of [RFC 3987].

 The conversion from an XML Resource Identifiers to an
 IRI must be performed only when absolutely necessary and
 as late as possible in a processing chain.  In particular,
 neither the process of converting a relative XML Resource
 Identifier to an absolute one nor the process of passing
 an XML Resource Identifier to a process or software component
 responsible for dereferencing it should trigger escaping.

ACTION to Norm:  Implement the new wording in XLink 1.1.

6. XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)

 Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)

ACTION to Francois:  Update the PE document per last telcon's

On PE 157, John sent email at
with his suggested response and a question for the WG:

> Should we add specific references to UTF-16BE, UTF-16LE, CESU-8,
> etc. etc. to 4.3.3?  If so, we might as well remove "We consider the
> first case first" from Appendix F; it's more than obvious.

We agreed that, according to the spec, such a character is not a BOM.

Henry suggested we should provide an explanation, but he's not sure
if it should go in the spec or just to the commentor.

We will pick this back up later when John is on a call.

7. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:

 Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)

 Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)

Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at

8.  XInclude 1.0 Second Edition has been published:

9.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.

10.  Henry raises that RFC 3023 is out of date and the draft
replacement has expired.  

Chris has gotten the source and made the changes.

There is a draft at
that can be reviewed now with comments sent to the XML Core
mailing list and/or Chris Lilley.

Paul sent some comments on 3023bis to the XML CG at

Henry says Chris is going to take the XML CG input outlined at
and produce another draft.

We will now await a new draft from Chris.

When 3023bis becomes a reality, we might have some
specs that need updating for the reference, but we
don't expect any major changes.

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Dec/0006
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