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Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2004 October 20

From: Paul Grosso <pgrosso@arbortext.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:35:23 -0400
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We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
Ocotber 20, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC
          16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
          17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

[For those wondering, the switch from daylight savings time
to standard time occurs on October 31st for the home locale 
of everyone on the WG.]

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia.

The next W3C Technical Plenary Week will be 28 February 2005
through 4 March 2005:
     http://www.w3.org/2002/09/TPOverview.html

The meeting will be held in the Hyatt Harborside, Boston:
     http://harborside.hyatt.com/property/index.jhtml


3. Problem with xml:space in the Schema document for the XML namespace

Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org> sent us email on this at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Jul/0019

CONSENSUS to remove the default for xml:space from the schema
for the xml namespace.

Henry drafted a new schema and send it to the XML Core list:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Oct/0007

Henry's suggested new schema includes xml:id.  Are we anticipating
too much here?

Henry and DV think it's fine.  Norm too.  What about others?

Barring new comments to the contrary, we will approve the change
this week.


4. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the NEW PUBLIC
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

Glenn has raised a question at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Sep/0080
about the wording for the ANY and mixed content models and whether
they allow cdata sections and/or comments and PIs.

All on the phone (and Francois in previous email) agree that we meant
to allows cdata sections and PIs and comments in these models.

Glenn proposed corrected wording at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Oct/0004

We had CONSENSUS to go with Glenn's words (with Paul's commas).

ACTION to Francois:  Make this a PE and put Glenn's words into 
a 2 week countdown (starting Oct 13th).

The xml-editor list just received a comment at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2004OctDec/0003
which is presumably asking the same question asked earlier at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2003OctDec/0048
and which the commenter claims we never answered satisfactorily.
I see at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-core-wg/2003OctDec/0233
JohnC suggested:

  8) NEL issue can be bypassed by using different transcoding
conventions.
  See
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2003OctDec/0048.html .

  Recommendation:  Reject.  Special code pages for XML are undesirable, 
  and older mainframe tools can't cope with them anyway.

I cannot find any response to commentor, DOC for the XML 1.1 PR (beyond
this email) or other follow up.

I suggest we need to make this latest comment a PE and be sure to
process it carefully to document whatever decision we take.

ACTION to Francois:  Make xml-editor/2004OctDec/0003 a PE.


5. Namespaces in XML.

  ACTION to Richard:  Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed.


6. Xinclude PR was published Sept 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/PR-xinclude-20040930/
   and announced to the AC at
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2004JulSep/0043 

   Please be sure your AC reps vote on it by October 29.

Sandra has added ERH's tests to the XInclude Test Suite.

Check on status of recently added ERH tests (I gather they
are in CVS, but not in the tar or zip, but maybe I'm mistaken).


7. xml:id.

Norm has collected the xml:id issues, now (public) at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/xml-id/wd-status/status-report.html
[Not quite up to date as of the writing of this agenda, but
all issues are closed.]

Norm just put a new draft (2004 October 15) up at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xmlid/xml-id.html
It presumably reflects all our decisions.  READ IT!

If the WG approves, we could consider taking it to Last Call.
What do members think?


8.  XML Profile.  The TAG (via Norm) asks about progress on this:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Sep/0004



[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Oct/0009
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
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