Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2004 August 4

We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, August 4,
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We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

Norm, John sent regrets.

Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and the current
   task status [2] (have any questions, comments, or corrections
   ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Neither Norm nor Paul can make next week's telcon, and Henry is
   on holidays.  We may cancel the telcon of the 11th.


3. Problem with xml:space in the Schema document for the XML namespace

Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org> sent us email on this at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Jul/0019

Norm thinks Mimasa is correct; we should not provide a default for
xml:space.
Glenn agrees.  Richard agrees.

We should remove the default for xml:space from the schema.

We have CONSENSUS that we should remove the default from xml:space,
but we'd like to wait until Henry is back to be sure.

ACTION to Henry (when he returns):  Comment and perhaps fix the schema.


4. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the NEW PUBLIC
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

PE 130 Missing paren in section 5.2 in XML 1.1
----------------------------------------------
Editorial.  We should add the missing paren (was in 3rd Ed).

CONSENSUS to do so.

ACTION to Francois:  Put into countdown until August 11.

PE 131 Space or S in XML decl.
------------------------------
Commentor says we use Space in the XML decl, but S elsewhere.

Actually, XML decl is (correctly) using S, and S is just the same as in
XML 1.0.

So the bug is that in SDDecl, it refers to x#20+ instead S:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xml11-20040204/#NT-SDDecl

We had CONSENSUS this was an editorial oversight, and that we should
change x#20+ to S in the SDDecl production.

ACTION to Francois:  Record the above resolution and put into countdown.


5. Namespaces in XML.

  ACTION to Richard:  Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed.


6. Xinclude CR was published April 13 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-xinclude-20040413
   The updated test suite cover page is at
   http://www.w3.org/XML/Test/XInclude/ 

Sandra had sent email with what she thought were the needed corrections
at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Jul/0022
and she is waiting for confirmation or corrections on that.

Richard and Glenn agree that Sandra should do as outlined in her email.

ACTION to Sandra:  Make the changes and commit to CVS.

The PR-ready draft is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/07/PR-xinclude/

The public DoC (aka latest issues list) is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/07/ExIT-xinclude/issues.html
At the top, this document says it's a DoC for the 3rd XInclude CR.
Are we really at the third CR, or just the second?

Am I reading the DoC correctly to say that we have closed all issues?

Are there any "closed" issues for which we have rebuttal we wish to
discuss?

In the DoC, I don't understand "Ack" column of the table.  What does
"review reply unaddressed" mean?

I thought we got some push back from Elliotte that requires that we
indicate review non-acceptance of our resolution, but I don't see that
reflected in the DoC.

At http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Jul/0025 
Richard had sent a format for submitting test reports and an XSLT 
to convert the report to an HTML page.  He also included his actual
results.

We still need implementation feedback from Daniel and Elliotte (and any
others from who we can).

ACTION to Richard:  Send Elliotte an email on how to present his
results,
cc-ing Paul.

ACTION to DV:  Provide a table giving results (using Richard's files) of

running the test suite on your implementation.

ACTION to Paul:  Write a PR request once we are ready to exit CR.


7. xml:id.

We should say that the values of xml:id must be
Names according to the XML version of the document.

ACTION: xml:id editors to update the draft to allow XML 1.0 and XML
        1.1 Names as appropriate.

We need to get into processing xml:id comments and producing a new
draft.

ACTION to Daniel:  Work toward producing a new draft.

Norm may have some cycles to work on this after mid-August.

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Jul/0034
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
[12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2004AprJun/0058.html

Received on Monday, 2 August 2004 11:44:21 UTC