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Re: XHTML Basic 1.1 and XHTML MP

From: Toshihiko Yamakami <Toshihiko.Yamakami@access-company.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:35:52 +0900
To: Roland Merrick <roland_merrick@uk.ibm.com>
Cc: public-xhtml2@w3.org
Message-Id: <20080703182044.B145.TOSHIHIKO.YAMAKAMI@access-company.com>

Roland:

 This is Yam.
 Thank you for your summarizing the long thread. It makes my life far
easier.

 I don't quite catch What Luca asked.

 Let's assume Luca asked how the wap-input-format can be implemented in
inputmode.
 It is completely wrong to blame W3C on this issue.
 When OMA decided to converge to XHTML Basic 1.1 and CSS Mobile Profile
2.0, OMA decided to make all wap-input-format "obsolete".
 This is OMA decision, with pains.
 Obsolete means "For user agent developers, properties that have been designated as obsolete SHOULD NOT be built into new implementations. Older implementations MAY still support these properties. However, all implementations MUST be able to parse, and at a minimum ignore obsoleted syntax."

 There is no longer bit-by-bit backward compatibility to
"wap-input-format", and this funcationality should be implemented by
ECMAScript if they wish. It is a result of 2-year collaboration of
W3C-OMA to make converged specs. It is with pain, but rewarding, we
believe.

 Best Regards,

-- Yam



> Greetings Yam, there has been a long thread of email running on the HTML 
> mailing list recently with a subject:
> 
> XHTML Basic 1.1 and setting input field to numeric mode
> 
> In essense Luca has two points that are bothering him about XHTML 1.1 
> Basic, but there is one that perhaps you could help us to understand. 
> 
> I will extract a small amount from the first note [1] in a very long 
> thread.
> 
> . . . an input field should be set on numeric mode (believe it or not, 
> still a very useful feature when you want to ask someone to input a long 
> series of digits on a numeric keypad!),
> 
> Of course, my reaction was to specify something like this:
> 
> style="-wap-input-format:'*N'"
> 
> Firstly Luca observed that there is no longer a style attribute which 
> became the theme of much on the resulting thread. It has been pointed out 
> that XHTML Basic 1.1 has added an attribute "inputmode" that would allow 
> the specification of something like inputmode="latin digits" which support 
> his original requirement. 
> 
> However, Luca goes on to ask [2] about what provision there is for the 
> richer capabilities that are in todays Mobile Profile.
> 
> So, finally, could you help us understand the relationship between XHTML 
> Basic 1.1 and new versions of XHTML Mobile Profile and if there are 
> additional features provided in XHTML Mobile Profile n.n that are not 
> included in XHTML Basic 1.1?
> 
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2008Jun/0015.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2008Jul/0019.html
> 
> Regards, Roland
> FBCS, CITP
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