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Re: Another Translator for RDF

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:26:17 -0500
Message-ID: <4EFCA2B9.1050405@openlinksw.com>
To: public-xg-webid@w3.org
On 12/29/11 12:11 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
>
> but, its not consumable. We have been doing email for 50 years, and 
> look at where we have got to:
>
> I cannot even portray the issue in email, as the portray email will 
> further compound the issue: so here is a picture, at 
> http://tinyurl.com/d6zs46d
>
> What matters about certs is not whether they work/ed, but whether they 
> are/were consumable - and a billion folks have/had more security than 
> they previously obtained (not that it is/was particularly assured). 
> But, one problem at a time. First we disposed of the cold war (i.e. 
> NSA). Now, we focus on FBI and the far more sinister SSS culture of 
> surveillance, snooping, snitching. ie. society itself.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Try:
>     http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>#this
>
>     That turns the Address into a Name with implicit disambiguation.
>     Basically, the server doesn't need to implement said
>     disambiguation via
>     303 based redirection.
>
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>#this>
>
>     isDescribedBy
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>>
>
>     .
>
>     Thus, de-referencing:
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>#this>
>
>     , via GET leads to the representation (its eav/spo directed graph
>     pictorial consistency) of:
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>>
>
>     being streamed to the WebID validator.
>

I meant:

<http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3#this> 

wdrs:describedby
<http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3> 
.


Put this in your browser for implicit indirection effect:
http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3#this 
.



Kingsley
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>     > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:40:20 -0500
>     > From: kidehen@openlinksw.com
>     > To: home_pw@msn.com
>     > CC: public-xg-webid@w3.org
>     > Subject: Re: Another Translator for RDF
>     >
>     > On 12/28/11 9:42 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
>     > > ow, Im tempted to put the following URI (or a tiny URI version
>     of it)
>     > > in my SAN URI
>     > >
>     > >
>     http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     > >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>
>     > >
>     > > Now Ive still no real idea how to think (as a consumer) about
>     #tag vs
>     > > document pointers , et al. Thinking as a consumer, I JUST WANT TO
>     > > CLICK ON A BOOKMARKLET, and copy the resulting page's browser's
>     > > address bar into my cert maker form - that simply replaced my
>     existing
>     > > cert with a new one (with a difference SAN name). 10s later I
>     have a
>     > > new cert. Thats how dumb its got to be (for manual interaction).
>     > >
>     > > FCNS accepts it.
>     > > FOAF SSL rejects it
>     > > ODS rejects it.
>     > >
>     > > I suspect FCNS is not truely "de-referencing", whereas the
>     other 2 are.
>     >
>     > Yes.
>     >
>     > > Do I care, is the question I suppose I should ask.
>     >
>     > Try:
>     >
>     http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>#this
>     >
>     > That turns the Address into a Name with implicit disambiguation.
>     > Basically, the server doesn't need to implement said
>     disambiguation via
>     > 303 based redirection.
>     >
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>#this>
>
>     > isDescribedBy
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>>
>
>     > .
>     >
>     > Thus, de-referencing:
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>#this>
>
>     > , via GET leads to the representation (its eav/spo directed graph
>     > pictorial consistency) of:
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3
>
>     >
>     <http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyorkporc2.blogspot.com%2F&of=n3>>
>
>     > being streamed to the WebID validator.
>     >
>     > The WebID validator then processes the retrieved graph by
>     looking up the
>     > relations that underlie the WebID protocol.
>     >
>     > Hint:
>     >
>     > Adding #this to the URL (Address) basically conforms to the
>     Linked Data
>     > (an old Object Theory rule) that an Object's Identity is
>     distinct from
>     > its Representation (values).
>     > >
>     > > This is rapidly getting consumable (once the quirks are ironed
>     out).
>     > > What I difference from the days of xwiki, and foaf.me.
>     >
>     > Once the fundamentals are nailed and verifiers honor Linked Data
>     > principles, we are set :-)
>     >
>     > --
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Kingsley Idehen
>     > Founder& CEO
>     > OpenLink Software
>     > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>     > Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
Founder&  CEO
OpenLink Software
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