Re: Thimbl

And following on from this Thimbl thread, i am forwarding an email which Dmyri Kleiner sent me about Thimbl. Furthermore I am cc'ing Dmyri in on this thread, incase anyone has a questions :)

Regards, 

Mischa 

Begin forwarded message:

> 
> At this point the most interesting and complete part of the code is the
> twisted based webserver, mammatus, which you can find more about here:
> 
> http://mammatus.telekommunisten.net
> 
> The lastest version of all of our code is on github.
> 
> Let me give you a little intro, feel free to pass it on.
> 
> Thimbl is a distributed three tier system.
> 
> 1. The User Information Tier
> 2. The HTTP Gateway
> 3. The HTML/CSS/JavaScript UI
> 
> The design is such that there can be many instances all three tiers with
> full interoperability. Any instance of any tier can interoperate with the
> others.
> 
> Tier 1 is where User information is stored, it must be run on the user's
> own server or the server of their internet host. For this reason, we don't
> want any software from our project to be required for this tier, just
> software that is already widely available and widely integrated in the
> software repositories of existing operating systems.
> 
> To participate in Thimbl, all you need to have running on your host is
> finger and ssh.
> 
> The finger daemon which you already have in the software repository of
> whatever OS your host uses (i.e. xinetd/finger) provides world readable
> user information, this is how you are "followed," the users who follow you
> "finger" your account and the Thimbl-formated data is read from your .plan
> file. To update your thimbl account with new data, you upload a new .plan
> file by ssh (well, sftp actually).
> 
> Since supporting SSH & Finger directly in the browser is an obstacle at
> this stage (and also to support other http clients), Tier 2 provides a
> gateway 
> where .plan files can be read and updated by way of http/https. 
> This is used by Tier 3, the Browser-based UI which runs in your browser. 
> It does all the fingeringing of all the users you are following 
> (stored in your .plan file) and collects and presents their data.
> 
> We already expect users and their hosts to host Tier 1 on their own and
> organisations that 
> don't want to use our deployment of Tier 2 & 3 can host these on
> themselves as well, since
> the software is open.
> 
> There is a diagram of some of these interactions show on the bottom of the
> about page:
> 
> http://www.thimbl.net/#about
> 
> I look forward to learning more about the Social Web Incubator, and to
> whatever feedback and comments the people involved may have about thimbl.
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dmyri Kleiner
> Venture Communist


On 1 Oct 2010, at 17:21, Mischa Tuffield wrote:

> Hello All, 
> 
> <snip/>
> On 28 Sep 2010, at 14:40, Karl Dubost wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Le 28 sept. 2010 à 05:38, Henry Story a écrit :
>>> nice, but it does not explain how it works. It would be interesting to compare with smob.
>> 
>> See
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ajgtbbdpw978_327dxhvp8d3
>> 
>> Slide 29: "achieves this by building upon finger, ssh, http and dns"
> 
> They have now release code : 
> 
> http://github.com/telekommunisten
> 
> They are up for some mozilla open web award thing : 
> 
> http://www.thimbl.net/#award
> 
> And they have a new website which is said to be more informative : 
> 
> http://www.thimbl.net/
> 
> I am going to spend some time having a proper look at this over the weekend. 
> 
> Mischa
> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Karl Dubost
>> Montréal, QC, Canada
>> http://www.la-grange.net/karl/
>> 
> 
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Homepage - http://mmt.me.uk/
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