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Re: First vCard in RDF and FOAF Future Telecon: May 27th 2:00 UTC (immediately after SWXG telecon)

From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:44:20 +0200
Message-ID: <4A1AA0B4.9030104@danbri.org>
To: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
CC: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>, martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org, Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, public-xg-socialweb@w3.org
I'd rather you waited until I was available. I suggest using the time to 
have everyone review the Portable Contacts spec. Following TimBL's mail, 
I agree that addressbook standards need a different spec-management 
style to the rest of FOAF. And from my perspective, that work has been 
done very well in this last year by the Portable Contacts initiative. 
For those of you not familiar with, I suggest taking a look. It draws on 
Joseph Smarr's knowledge (via Plaxo) of real-world vCard deployment, it 
has XML and JSON representations, it has excellent uptake from large 
scale social network implementations, and is pretty close to the hCard 
microformat profile of vCard. It's the best thing around, has smart 
people and traction, and re RDF-ing it I've begun a discussion about 
them putting up GRDDL on their XML namespace. The entire PC spec is 
rather big property-wise as it includes all of the OpenSocial schema too 
(ie. do you smoke, what relationship are you looking for etc etc). But 
the basics are simple and should be easy to RDFize. Having a telecon 
with attendees who haven't looked at 
portablecontacts.net/draft-spec.html in any detail would probably be a 
waste of everyone's time...



On 25/5/09 15:02, Harry Halpin wrote:
> We'll do our first "invited telecon" on fixing up the vCard FOAF
> mismatch on Wednesday at 2:00 UTC. While several important people
> can't make it (DanBri and Renato), I'll be seeing Renato in person a
> few days afterwards, so it's important we develop a list of things we
> want fixed and open questions that need an answer for vCard in RDF.
> Then, hopefully in a later "guest" telecon, we can sort out the issues
> of mapping vCard to the latest IETF vCard/Portable Contacts work, and
> the future of FOAF. In particular, getting feedback from the use of
> vCard/RDF in the wilde from Peter Mika is of importance, as well as
> someone (Ivan?) who has an idea for the process for merging the vCard
> ontology/VCard in RDF namespaces. Lastly, Libby, if you have any
> preferences or questions for for how vCard should evolve with FOAF,
> now would be a good time to start brainstorming.
> Doing as much of this brainstorming as possible over the list-serv
> beforehand is always a good thing.
> Here's the telecon details:
> May 27th 2:00 UTC (Check your local time [1])
> SWXG WG "Invited Guest: VCard"  meeting
>             2009-05-27T14:00-15:00Z
>            + Zakim teleconference bridge: Boston, USA:
>              +1.617.761.6200 code:SWXG Nice, France:
>              + code:SWXG Bristol, UK:
>              +44.117.370.6152 code:SWXG
>               supplementary IRC chat: #swxg on irc.w3.org port 6665
> Tell me if you need any more help with Zakim and telecons in general.
> [1] http://permatime.com/UTC/2009-05-27/14:00/Next_teleconference
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Harry Halpin<hhalpin@ibiblio.org>  wrote:
>> Everyone,
>>     You've been invited to help sort out the "great" vCard in RDF and
>> FOAF controversy, hopefully in order to get one useful RDF vocabulary
>> that contains the basic core terms needed to describe people (call it
>> "FOAF 2.0 - the vCard edition" if you will, although we may just have
>> a new single version of vCard in RDF emerge as a module to be used
>> with FOAF. Who knows?). We need to discuss what terms, solve any open
>> issues, how to host, how to point old versions to a new version, and
>> then how to outreach and communicate with the Portable Contacts and
>> the current vCard IETF WG.
>>    The Social Web XG will host the telecon. What times work best for
>> people? The Social Web XG would prefer a Wednesday at 2:00 UTC (Note
>> that this is 3:00 London, 10 AM Boston time). Please use this Doodl
>> scheduler to indicate what times you are open:
>> http://www.doodle.com/2b94ukh7ztdvaesv
>>    Lastly, see our wiki page [1] for more information.
>>    Thank you,
>>             harry
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/DiscussionTopics
>>                harry
Received on Monday, 25 May 2009 13:45:06 UTC

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