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RE: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] comments on XGR

From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:48:48 +0200
Message-ID: <768DACDC356ED04EA1F1130F97D2985201211F52@RZJC2EX.jr1.local>
To: "Troncy, Raphael" <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
Cc: "MMSem-XG Public List" <public-xg-mmsem@w3.org>, <erik.mannens@ugent.be>, <halasche@cs.umd.edu>, <oscar.celma@iua.upf.edu>, Tobias BŁrger <tobias.buerger@deri.at>, "Susanne Boll" <susanne.boll@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>, <christian.timmerer@itec.uni-klu.ac.at>, <rogargon@gmail.com>, "Bailer, Werner" <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>


Again, thanks a lot for your constructive and sound review. 

With this mail I'd also like to send out a BIG thank you
to all the contributors (CC'd) - without your input and
review this XGR would simply not exist!

Now, in

 (Revision: v1.32)

all your comments have been addressed - so do I hope :)

The following is a detailed report on the changes 
I did based on you comments:

 * All 'Put a reference to ...' issues are resolved 
   (additionally for XMP, which was not mentioned but
   for consistency reasons updated)

 * MPEG-7 is fully integrated (existing and formal)

 * MPEG-21 has been updated nearly as you suggested 
  (I left the REL-part in there as well)

 * Some minor additions in MXF (further refs + 
   SMPTE Metadata Dictionary RP210)

 * Merged the formalizations and the MMO section 
   to be the new Sec. 4

 * Audio onto part was added

 * Cleaned up unused references

The newly added COMM-part (cf. Sec. 4.4.4) might need a 
short review/update from your side.


 Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
 Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
 JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH

>-----Original Message-----
>From: RaphaŽl Troncy [mailto:Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl] 
>Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:07 PM
>To: Hausenblas, Michael
>Cc: MMSem-XG Public List
>Subject: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] comments on XGR
>Dear Michael,
>Apologies for this long delay. This is finally my internal review for
>the "Multimedia Vocabularies on the Semantic Web" document [1]. Once
>these comments addressed, the document would be published as 
>an XGR very
>[1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-vocabularies/
>Revision: ??
>    - I have sorted alphabetically the contributors and moved Roberto
>and Werner in the ack section since they were not members of the XG.
>    - They were no consistency on the links from the names (email,
>homepage, institution page). The preferred link is the homepage. For
>Michael and Erik, there is now a link to your email address. Would you
>both prefer to link your name to a web page?
>Section 3.1.1: put a reference for VRA and for Dublin Core the first
>time the reader encounters these terms.
>Section 3.1.2: put a reference to EXIF.
>Section 3.1.3: say first what is NISO Z39.87 and put a 
>reference so that
>the description is homogeneous to the other sections. Currently, the
>section begins with "Tags cover a wide ..." => what are you talking
>about? What is the dictionary you're refering to?
>Section 3.1.4: put a reference to DIG35
>Section 3.1.5: put a reference to PhotoRDF
>Section 3.2.1: put a reference to ID3
>In this section, you wrote: "The ID3 specification tries to cover a
>broad range; a list of genres is defined.". Could you precise what is
>this "broad range"? Could you give this list of genre defined by ID3
>tags? Would it make sense to enumerate the 15 most used properties in
>ID3 and explicitely write that the user can define his own properties?
>Section 3.2.2: put a reference to MusicBrainz
>Section 3.2.3: put a reference to MusicXML
>Section 3.3.1: given that the MPEG-7 document will remain a very
>preliminary draft, I suggest you include ALL
>-7 in the
>section 3.3.1. You can end this section with the pointer towards the
>MMSem XF working draft
>(http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-mpeg7/). Don't forget the
>reference to MPEG-7.
>Section 3.3.2: put a reference to AAF
>Section 3.3.3: put a reference to MXF
>Section 3.4.1: put a reference to SMIL. Could you also say a word about
>SMIL 3.0 which is just announced as the last Call for Comments for a WD
>before becoming a Candidate Recommendation ...
>Section 3.4.2: put a reference to SVG
>Section 3.5.1: put a reference to NewsML
>Section 3.5.2: put a reference to TVAnytime
>Section 3.5.3: put a reference to MPEG-21
>The description of this standard is far too long, and not consistent
>with the other ones :-( There is no usefulness to describe the 
>18 parts,
>or we should have done the same thing for MPEG-7 for example. I think
>the description of all parts could be completely removed. An 
>(my preference) would be to report only about the relevant 
>parts for the
>topics covered by the XG, that is: the parts 2 and 3 (Digital Item) and
>the part 17 (fragment identification).
>Section 3.5.4: put a reference to EBU P/Meta
>Section 3.6.1: put a reference to Dublin Core
>Section 4.3: given that the MPEG-7 document will remain a very
>preliminary draft, I suggest you include ALL
>-7 in the
>section 4.3. You can end this section with the pointer towards 
>the MMSem
>XF working draft (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-mpeg7/).
>Section 5: given that VDO is also part of MPEG-7, would it 
>make sense to
>have a dedicated section 5 or should you merge sections 4 and 5 into a
>single section "Multimedia Ontologies" and including VRA, EXIF, MPEG-7,
>NewsML, VDO, etc. in OWL/RDF?
>The section 5.3 is incomplete. Could you complete them?
>References: are you using all of them?
>* "Put a reference to ..." means having the standard listed in the
>Reference section and the relevant pointer to that in the appropriate
>I have also corrected some typos found all along the document ("viz."
>which is rarely used in English, "..." found at different places, etc.)
>and rephrased some sections. Please, could you tell me if you 
>agree with
>all the changes?
>Best regards.
>    RaphaŽl
>RaphaŽl Troncy
>CWI (Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science),
>Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
>e-mail: raphael.troncy@cwi.nl & raphael.troncy@gmail.com
>Tel: +31 (0)20 - 592 4093
>Fax: +31 (0)20 - 592 4312
>Web: http://www.cwi.nl/~troncy/
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