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RE: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio vocabularies)

From: VassilisTzouvaras <tzouvaras@image.ntua.gr>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:25:52 +0200
Message-Id: <200611261725.kAQHPpPw007651@manolito.image.ece.ntua.gr>
To: "'Hausenblas, Michael'" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>, "'Oscar Celma'" <ocelma@iua.upf.edu>, "'RaphaŽl Troncy'" <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
Cc: "'MMSem-XG Public List'" <public-xg-mmsem@w3.org>

Dear all,

The vocabulary document includes already most of the multimedia
vocabularies/standards. However, it doesn't cover any vocabularies/standards
from the digital libraries and cultural domain, which are in the scope of
this XG. Digital libraries and culture heritage archives have their own
standards like Cidoc-CRM, AMICO, MARC, OAI for metadata harvesting and many
others. These standards are in use from a large community and in the current
document it seems that they are not covered. Also, there has been an effort
to connect the XG with this community. I suggest and volunteer to cover
these standards. We can have a section for digital libraries and cultural
heritage archives metadata standards in the vocabulary document.

Also, I believe that we should also cover thesauri vocabularies (e.g. SKOS,
UNESCO) that play important role in semantic and multilingual
interoperability. 

Regards,
Vassilis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-xg-mmsem-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-mmsem-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Hausenblas, Michael
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:39 AM
> To: Oscar Celma
> Cc: RaphaŽl Troncy; MMSem-XG Public List
> Subject: RE: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio
vocabularies)
> 
> 
> Oscar,
> 
> I've now updated our Vocabulary page [1] w.r.t. the audio standards:
> 
>  + removed AMG/CDDB
>  + updated MusicBrainz
>  + added MusicXML
> 
> Could you please go into detail with MPEG and XMF stuff; and: I'm not so
sure
> how to handle the
> Kanzaki and the Foafing vocabularies - any ideas where to put it? (sec. 5
or sec.
> 6)
> 
> Looking at [2] tells me that you _indeed_ have a wiki account (at least
you edited
> your RDF description on 2006-11-14 with it :)
> So, please, would you be so kind performing further changes directly on
the Voc-
> page [1]?
> 
> Cheers,
>        Michael
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies
> [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/OscarCelma
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> ________________________________
> 
> From: Oscar Celma [mailto:ocelma@iua.upf.edu]
> Sent: Thu 2006-11-23 18:22
> To: Hausenblas, Michael
> Cc: RaphaŽl Troncy; Christian Halaschek-Wiener; MMSem-XG Public List
> Subject: Re: [MMSEM-Vocabulary] Request for contribution (audio
vocabularies)
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Micheal,
> 
> Here's a long mail (I do not have a wiki account yet, so please
> copy/paste to the wiki whatever you think is useful...)
> 
> Hausenblas, Michael wrote:
> > RaphaŽl, Oscar, All,
> >
> > 4. W.r.t. the audio MM standards IMHO a bit of expertise from Oscar
> > would be of great help ... :)
>  > RaphaŽl said:
>  > "Furthermore, are "All Music Guide (AMG)", "MusicBrainz Metadata
> Initiative 2.1" and "Compact Disc Database (CDDB)" really vocabularies ?"
> 
> I would say neither AMG (although they have some interesting taxonomies
> with regard to genre/styles) nor CDDB are really vocabularies.
> In my opinion ID3 specification is not clear enough (and very wide), the
> more concrete thing they propose is a list of genres.
> On the other hand, MusicBrainz it is a vocabulary!
> 
> Moreover, some of these vocabularies should be taken into account, too
> (I've tried to add the categorization proposed whenever it was possible):
> 
> * Musicbrainz Schema
> MusicBrainz defined an RDFS definition [1] (you can see the HTML output
> at [2]). Instances in RDF are available via their query language (see
> some results at [3]). An example of their MQ query is:
> 
> <mq:FindAlbum>
> <mq:depth>1</mq:depth>
> <mq:artistName>Pink Floyd</mq:artistName>
> <mq:albumName>Dark Side of the Moon</mq:albumName>
> </mq:FindAlbum>
> 
> -- Musicbrainz Discriminator/Category:
> Representation RDF (R) / RDFS
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow production
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> [1] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/index.rdf
> [2] http://www.ldodds.com/projects/musicbrainz/schema/mb.html
> [3] http://musicbrainz.org/MM/mq_examples.html
> 
> * In [4], there are lots of resources about Music Notation and XML. From
> the list available in [4], I would like to mention:
> 
> + MusicXML [5], by Michael Good (Recordare).
> "Recordare has developed MusicXML technology to create an
> Internet-friendly method of publishing musical scores, enabling
> musicians and music fans to get more out of their online music."
> The DTD specification is available at [6].
> 
> -- MusicXML Discriminator/Category:
> Representation XML (X) / DTDs
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow production
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> + MPEG Ad Hoc Group on Symbolic Music Representation, lead by Paolo Nesi
> (see [7]) are working on the standarization process of music notation.
> Don't know the current status, though.
> 
> -- MPEG Ad Hoc Group Discriminator/Category:
> Representation XML (X) / DTDs?
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow production
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> + XMF
> The Extensible Music Format (XMF) [8] is a family of music-related file
> formats created and administered by the MIDI Manufacturer's Association.
> It is based on MIDI files.
> Their goal is (quoted from the website):
> 
> "Create an open standard file format for gathering together into a
> single file all media assets (and/or links to external media assets)
> required to render a MIDI note-based piece (or suite of related pieces)
> in a computer-based player (or possibly an instrument) with consistent
> audio playback across all players and platforms, and suited for
> interactivity, content protection, meta-data, and the Internet - and
> keep it simple."
> 
> [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/xmlMusic.html
> [5] http://www.recordare.com/xml.html
> [6] http://www.recordare.com/dtds/index.html
> [7] http://www.interactivemusicnetwork.org/mpeg-ahg/index.html
> [8] http://www.midi.org/about-midi/xmf/
> 
> * Then there are other small projects/proposals such as:
> 
> + The Kanzaki music ontlogy [9]
> Quoted from the website:
> "A vocabulary to describe classical music and performances. Classes
> (categories) for musical work, event, instrument and performers, as well
> as related properties are defined. Make sure to distinguish musical
> works (e.g. Opera) from performance/event (Opera_Performance), or works
> (String_Quartette) from performer (StringQuartetEnsemble in this vocab),
> whose natural language terms are used interchangeblly. The present
> version experiments more precise model to describe a musical work, its
> representations (performances, scores, etc) and a musical event to
> present a representation (a concert). Includes 30 keys as individuals."
> 
> -- Kanzaki Music Performance ontology Group Discriminator/Category:
> Representation OWL DL
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow premeditation? / production?
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> [9] http://www.kanzaki.com/ns/music
> 
> + Last but not least, there is the music ontology [10] used by Foafing
> the Music project [11]. It includes some descriptors automatically
> extracted from the audio (e.g. Key and mode, beats per minute, meter,
> intensity, etc.)
> 
> -- Foafing the music ontology Group Discriminator/Category:
> Representation OWL DL
> Content Type audio (A)
> Workflow premeditation
> Domain generic
> Industry music
> 
> [10] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/ISWC2006
> [11] http://foafing-the-music.iua.upf.edu/
> 
> 
> That's all for now!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Oscar Celma
> 
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