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Re: Tools

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 08:53:19 -0800
Message-ID: <20110304085319.60127ul7yzb2bdvj@kcoyle.net>
To: Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>
Cc: Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com>, public-xg-lld@w3.org
Perhaps we could think about this in terms of use cases. One use case  
is a library-related developer (in a library or perhaps working for a  
vendor) who wants to begin experimenting with linked data, or maybe  
even has been given the mandate to create linked data (this should  
sound familiar to Jeff :-)). We need to be able to point that person  
to some starting points. I think Jeff's list does that well. (And I  
really hope that "we" can start doing some training/education around  
those tools.)

What I run into, and I suspect this is Emmanuelle's experience, is  
library data practitioners who want to see what LLD might look like to  
them - that's a different use case. They are confused about where URIs  
fit in (will they have to type those long, meaningless strings?), and  
where sharable data will come into their workflow. I think that at the  
moment we do not have tools for these people, but if we can education  
the former group of potential developers, then we are one step closer  
to giving the larger community something they can see.

I'm going to crib from Jeff's list for the second part of the webinars  
I'm giving for ASIST. Obviously I can't say much about how to use the  
tools, but I'm hoping that some people in the audience might be able  
to use them.

kc

Quoting Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>:

> Maybe we could list Linked Data tools that have been used for LLD (for
> instance, from the use cases).
> So these would have proven useful for LLD at least with 1 example
> implementation.
>
> Emmanuelle
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Yes, I think they would necessarily be coupled with library specific
>> datasets and/or vocabularies. I agree that the point of much of the
>> linked data / semweb technology stack is that the tools are domain
>> agnostic: e.g. good for biology as well as libraries.
>>
>> I wonder if this wiki page on tools could discuss this, and link out
>> to lists of semweb tools, and list any library linked data specific
>> tools that are available. I think Karen't point about taking the user
>> into consideration is important too. Some tools are useful for
>> software developers, and others for catalogers, etc. I'd like to help
>> make the page reflect who the user is, if possible.
>>
>> //Ed
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:
>>> I'm not aware of any library-specific Linked Data tools. Presumably such
>>> tools would be coupled with library-specific datasets and/or ontologies.
>>> It seems like the point of Semantic Web architecture is to provide tools
>>> where these assumptions have been factored out. Maybe I'm just not
>>> thinking about it the right way.
>>>
>>> Or maybe this is where Application Profiles are supposed to act as
>>> configuration mechanisms? It seems a little premature to expect a list
>>> of AP-based tools.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ed.summers@gmail.com [mailto:ed.summers@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Ed Summers
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:22 AM
>>>> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
>>>> Cc: Karen Coyle; public-xg-lld@w3.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Tools
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I started a wiki page for "Tools" where I thought Alex, Michael,
>>>> Martin
>>>> > and I could start to gather thoughts:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Tools#Tools_List
>>>> >
>>>> > Right now this isn't linked from anywhere else.
>>>> >
>>>> > The structure isn't clear yet.
>>>>
>>>> Are we focusing on Linked Data tools in general, or Library Linked
>>>> Data tools specifically? There are so many options for the former, I'm
>>>> not sure a comprehensive list like this is feasible. Although pointing
>>>> at other good lists could be helpful I guess.
>>>>
>>>> //Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



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