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Re: Do we need "summaries" of the Use Cases?

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:00:54 +0100
Message-ID: <4D35D556.6000803@few.vu.nl>
To: Manue <manue@figoblog.org>
CC: Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, "public-xg-lld@w3.org" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
I agree. Having these case summaries would be nice, but let's see that later, once we have not more urgent matter to deal with.

AndI also support Tom's proposal re. small editorial changes to the case descriptions. If cluster curators or anyone else note something obvious is missing, or even if there's a typo, there's no reason not to make a quick change. Whatever happens, the cases (and the history of their writing) should remain online on the wiki at the end of the XG, as material for the (curious) reader...

Antoine


> I'm also in favor of not putting the complete use cases in the report, and leave them in a frozen wiki.
>
> Having a short summary for each of them could be an interesting option for an appendix, but before starting this extra work (which may be time consuming) I suggest we take the time to finish the effort on clusters, and maybe to have a dedicated call on where to go from here (this would include, in my view, a discussion on the content of the final report as proposed in the outline).
>
> I also agree with Karen that not all our content will be based on use cases. We still have the "topics" list, with a lot of interesting stuff in it.
>
> Emmanuelle
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de <mailto:tbaker@tbaker.de>> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 02:21:51PM -0800, Karen Coyle wrote:
>      > I'm a bit concerned about the inclusion of the use cases in the
>      > final document. While I think the cases are useful, I think that the
>      > final document should be an analysis of our thoughts on LLD and what
>      > needs to be incubated, even in areas that are not covered by the use
>      > cases. The use cases should be a source of ideas, but not the only
>      > source.
>      >
>      > Therefore, I would rather leave the use cases online. The document
>      > could summarize what we learned from them, but does not need to
>      > summarize the cases themselves. (cf. the suggestion that each use
>      > case be given 3 pages in the document). It is my opinion that the
>      > value of the use cases is what they teach us about LLD, not the
>      > cases qua cases.
>
>     I am also unsure whether the full use cases belong in the
>     report per se, even as a long appendix. Personally, I would
>     not object simply to leaving them in a frozen wiki archive (see
>     for example [2]). We need to be realistic about the amount
>     of effort it would take to move all of those descriptions
>     into another publication format.
>
>     My concern is that if the narrative of the report does make
>     reference to specific use cases (as in [1]), it should be
>     possible for the reader to quickly see what the referenced
>     use case is about in a sentence or two, with a link to a
>     fuller description.
>
>     Or to take the case of "Archives", do you see the references to
>     specific use cases [1] as scaffolding for building and supporting
>     the argument but that will not necessarily carry through into
>     the final report?
>
>     Tom
>
>     [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_Archives#Scenarios_.28Case_Studies.29
>     [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/
>
>     --
>     Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de <mailto:tbaker@tbaker.de>>
>
>
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