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RE: Use case mail

From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:45:57 -0400
Message-ID: <52E301F960B30049ADEFBCCF1CCAEF5909994BE2@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
To: "Antoine Isaac" <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Cc: "public-xg-lld" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Antoine,

There are subtle but troubling differences between the two documents
that we've ignored so far. I don't think it's LLD XG's job to reconcile
them, but until this happens I think Linked Data will remain an enigma
to many people.

I agree that Tim's document is the one to read first because it is light
and intuitive. If someone wants to actually create Linked Data, though,
they really should read the Cool URIs document.

I would rather see one link rather than zero. Tim's design issues
document is fine.

Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antoine Isaac [mailto:aisaac@few.vu.nl]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:10 AM
> To: Young,Jeff (OR)
> Cc: public-xg-lld
> Subject: Re: Use case mail
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> > I agree it is a good idea to include the link to Tim's document.
IMO,
> > though, the "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web" is a better reference
> > because "Real World Object", "Generic Document", and "Web Document"
> are
> > vital concepts.
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/
> >
> > Could we include both?
> 
> 
> That triggers an interesting point. If we feel that the current link
> should be completed, then that reveals an issue with the available
> linked data documentation and/or our goal with the document. I'm
> uncomfortable with the call for use case to be at a same time a
> comprehensive entry point to the LOD stuff. If we need 2 pointers then
> I'd prefer to have zero and avoid the trouble altogether.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> 
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: public-xg-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-lld-
> >> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Isaac
> >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:16 AM
> >> To: public-xg-lld
> >> Subject: Fwd: Re: Use case mail
> >>
> >> Hi Marcia (forwarding to the list, as it is a relevant question,
and
> >> the continuation of yesterday's call [1])
> >>
> >>
> >>> Do you think it is necessary to refer to the 4 principles to avoid
> >>> non-true-LD be included?
> >>> http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd have said that if contributors don't know linked data they
would
> >> not even think of contributing :-)
> >>
> >> Now, we're in the real world, and we'll be sending the call to more
> >> general lists. So there could be still completely out-of-scope
> >> contributions that we don't want if we don't put such link.
> >>
> >> Any objection?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/02-lld-
> >> minutes.html#item15
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: 	Re: Use case mail
> >> Date: 	Thu, 2 Sep 2010 13:34:39 -0400
> >> From: 	ZENG, MARCIA<mzeng@kent.edu>
> >> To: 	Antoine Isaac<aisaac@few.vu.nl>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/2/10 7:14 AM, "Antoine Isaac"<aisaac@few.vu.nl>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>       >   Dear all
> >>       >
> >>       >   To prepare for our calling for external contributions for
> > (use)
> >>       cases, I
> >>       >   have drafted a first mail at
> >>       >
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Call_Mail
> >>       >
> >>       >   It is heavily adapted from the SKOS Call for use cases at
> >>       >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-
> >> wg/2006Dec/0036.html
> >>       >
> >>       >   Comments are of course highly welcome. And feel free to
> >> directly
> >>       fix any
> >>       >   typo or grammatical mistake you would spot on the text!
> >>       >
> >>
> >>
> >>       A note on this: while adapting the SKOS use case mail I felt
> very
> >>       tempted to re-use the introduction at
> >>       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Template
> >> (copied
> >>       below). I really like that piece of text, and I think it is a
> > good
> >>       way to assert that we especially value user-oriented use
cases
> > for
> >>       our task, even if other cases are welcome as well. However it
> >> would
> >>       make the mail we send a very long one, even if we shortened
it
> to
> >>       half of its current size.
> >>
> >>       I'd thus suggest to fit this introduction into
> >>       http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCCuration , which
> is
> >>       communicated to external contributors in the current draft
> mail.
> >>
> >>       Maybe we can discuss this on the coming call. But it is now
> quite
> >>       late, and anyway objections or approval by mail are always
> >> welcome,
> >>       especially from these who have sent regrets :-)
> >>
> >>       Antoine
> >>
> >>       -----
> >>
> >>       The mission of the Library Linked Data Incubator Group is to
> help
> >>       increase global interoperability of library data on the Web
by
> >>       bringing together people involved in Semantic Web
> >>       activities--focusing on Linked Data--in the library community
> and
> >>       beyond, building on existing initiatives, and identifying
> >>       collaboration tracks for the future.
> >>
> >>       Achieving this goal will depend on identifying shared models,
> >> modes
> >>       of collaboration, and a common understanding of the changing
> ways
> >>       that data is shared on the web.
> >>
> >>       One approach to this problem is to identify use cases that
> > reflect
> >>       expectations of how end-users will exploit library services
> and
> >>       assets, how libraries will make such assets and services
> >> available,
> >>       and the infrastructure and devices necessary to complete this
> >>       connection. It is important, as well, to recognize that
> libraries
> >>       exist within an ecosystem of many information providers and
> >>       services, and the interrelationships among all information
> >> providers
> >>       is an important component of such use cases.
> >>
> >>       A use case describes what a user can do with a system by
> >> specifying
> >>       a sequence of interactions between user and system leading to
> a
> >>       desirable outcome. It should not be confused with specifying
> the
> >>       technology itself: a use case may allow for many alternatives
> to
> >>       achieving user needs. While use cases are typically devised
> >>       independently of underlying technology (that is, they are
> > intended
> >>       to expose functional requirements, rather than to specify the
> >> means
> >>       by which such requirements are satisfied), the focus of this
> >>       Incubator Group is specifically on how linked data approaches
> >> might
> >>       be brought to bear so as to improve the overall ability to
> > satisfy
> >>       user needs. The linked data perspective should therefore be
> >> integral
> >>       to the use cases.
> >>
> >>       To help analysis across use cases and to keep a consistent
> level
> >> of
> >>       information, each use case should try to follow the template
> >> below,
> >>       providing something for each non-optional field.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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