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[EMOXG] Minutes of f2f Cannes session 4

From: Burkhardt, Felix <Felix.Burkhardt@t-systems.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:30:54 +0200
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Hi all
Here comes my minutes from session 4 of todays face 2 face meeting in Cannes

Present: Marc Schröder, Björn Schuller, Alan Giboin (observer), Myriam Lamolle, Felix Burkhardt, Enrico Zovato, Paolo Baggia (only last half hour)

Session 4:

Topic 1: Core 1: Type of emotion-related phenonemon
Topic 2: Merging with Multimodal Interaction Group
Topic 3: Writing the final report

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Topic Core 1: Type of emotion-related phenonemon

This is the question of the main element that embraces an observation related to an emotion related state.

Marc summarizes open questions:
option 1: name of element represents typec: <mood set="Scherer>
option 2: common name and type attribute: <emotion type="mood" set="Scherer">
within option 2, how to name the element? 
a) emotion
b) affect
c) state

Björn prefers option 2 because more consistent with rest of markup. It's a parallelism to -> category name="joy".

Marc and Felix like option 1 because it looks most simple.

Marc wants people to be explicit, so a default value in option 2 would be counterproductive.

Björn wouldn't like it to be called "emotion" but prefers "affect"

Enrico prefers option 2 because it's important to have a single main element, specially if the element name can be defined outside the standard.  

Enrico votes for "affect" as name, without default value.

Jean Claude and Catherine preferred "affect", Ian and Christian vote for "emotion" or (in Christian's case), "state".

Felix: so the opinions seems to be quite diverse.

Marc: with respect to the emotion-related-state-set we will use "set", it should be possiblie to set that globally.

Marc: How about call the element "emotion", defaults to emotion, and only if not emotion write, e.g. type="interpersonal-stance".

Marc: More radical, drop the types but encode them in the "set" of categories, dimensions, appraisals and action-tendencies by just not stating the type of phenonemon.

Marc: We then would define default sets for the categories with respect to emoiton, mood, interpersonal stance etc.

Björn would like it to be called at least "emo" then, but this is misleading in roman languages (connected to hemoglobin)

Felix could live with that solution because thinks that it's very important not to have to much scientific overhead.

Björn, Enrico and Myriam also agree.

Alan (Giboin) would like to know whether it's scientificly wrong or if there are scientific important things that can't be expressed. Not clear if experts and layman can define types.

Marc: So, because otherwise it would be too lengthy and cumbersome, always to state the type of emotion related state, we suggest 
<emotion><category set="myMoods" name="depressed"/></emotion>

Marc: We will NOT provide for a default set in order to force the users to be explicit what they state, but give suggestions by providing a range of sets.
The name of the element will stay "emotion" because most users are most familiar with that.


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Topic: Merging with Multimodal Interaction Group

Marc: Our W3C team member would then be Kazuyuki.

Marc: We're expected to add a paragraph to the MMI charter.

Marc: We'd have to circulate paragraph for first draft of new MMI charter at end of november where we specify what we want to do and why so they can see into their patent policy. 

Marc: Idea to add to the charter the specification of an emotion-capture modality component, would be nice example of synergy.

Marc: We could even continue with our phonemeetings while we're not yet official part of MMI.

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Topic: Writing the final report

Marc: How do we write the "final report of the incubator group".

Paolo (Baggia): start with writing the HTML code for the spec, otherwise you might want to write xml and translate that to html by a conerter tool.

Marc: for final report rational section is important because many people might not understand the relavance of emotion markup to w3c.

Marc: draft table of contents:
- introduction
- "proposal for a draft specification"
- name of language "EmotionML"

Marc: schedule after one year "first publc draft"

Paolo: better publish earlier and more often because that stirs discussion and is wanted by w3c.

ACTION: Marc will circulate a sceleton document with table of contents as well as a first example of a specification bit in order for the other authors to follow the example till 5th of november.

Marc: Suggest phone meetings on the 6th and 13th of Nov. to discuss writing the final report.

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Greetings,
felix

Felix Burkhardt
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