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From: Marc Schroeder <schroed@dfki.de>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:58:28 +0200
Message-ID: <48A13494.9000009@dfki.de>
To: EMOXG-public <public-xg-emotion@w3.org>

Dear all,

I presented the current work in the EMOXG to the Multi-modal interaction 
(MMI) group yesterday. (MMI = the people who have created EMMA etc.)

The response was very positive again, and there is the idea to meet at 
the face-to-face in Cannes in October:
- for an hour with the Voice Browser group, to discuss about possible 
connections with SSML and PLS (pronounciation language);
- for a some time with the MMI group, to discuss content and the 
possible future as a subgroup in MMI.


For us, this means we should discuss, at the next phone meeting, our 
stance towards the future of our endeavour. I assume we do not want to 
stop; then, we can discuss the pros and cons of aiming for a separate 
formal work group or for becoming a subgroup in MMI.

Minutes of yesterday's call below.

Best,
Marc

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Betreff: [all] minutes MMI call August 11, 2008
Datum: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:21:57 +0200
Von: Kliche, Ingmar <Ingmar.Kliche@t-systems.com>
An: <w3c-mmi-wg@w3.org>
CC: <schroed@dfki.de>

MMI main call August 11, 2008

Emotion XG requirements (Marc Schröder, DFKI)
Emotion page: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/

Attendees:

Kazuyuki,
Jim_Larson,
Debbie_Dahl,
Ingmar_Kliche,
Marc_Schroeder,
Moshe_Yudkowsky,
Michael_Bodell,
Jim_Barnett

Debbie:

- Marc will present the status of the work of the Emotion XG
- one option would be to incorporate the work of the Emotion XG into the 
MMI WG
- the MMI WG will re-charter at the end of the year

Marc:

- I will describe the status of our work in a little more detail

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2008Aug/0043.html

- we started with use cases and requirements and collected a list of 
required features for the language
- now we are working on the syntax of the EmotionML

[Marc steps through the slides]

JimL:

- the question for emotion annotation has been on the table again and 
again. But usually people could not agree on the possible values

Marc:

- This is true. Therefore we decided to give a reasonable list of values 
and allow users to extend the list of possible values.

JimL:

- there seem to be a lot of attributes for emotions and it will get more 
and more. How do you bound it? (see slide 6, e.g. <category 
set="everyday" name="pleasure" confidence="0.8" />)

Marc:

- we made the attributes optional. We have use cases, like manual 
annotation of emotion, where people want to explicitly express things in 
much detail (like the reason for an emotion) and need lots of 
attributes. But for other use cases the details are not necessary. 
Therefore the attributes are optional.

- next steps for Emotion XG:

+ charter runs out in November
+ we will have a F2F meeting during TP in France
+ we need to discuss how to proceed after November

- Alternatives for time after incubator has finished:

a) stop work
b) build separate group
c) join/link with MMI group

JimL:

- how many active participants are in the group?

Marc:

- people during phone calls: ~10
- people contributing examples: ~5

JimL:

- I encourage you to consider to join the MMI group as a sub group
- the advantage would be that you could interact with MMI group very 
easily (e.g. I see lot of connection to EMMA) and you would not need to 
handle all the overhead of a separate group
- there is also lot of connection to the VXML in terms of SSML, emotion 
recognition

JimL/Moshe:

<Discussion of using EmotionML for input vs. output>

Marc:

- we consider to use Emotion for input and output

Kaz:

- what kind of result do you want to produce in the future? Will it be a 
markup language or an ontology?

Marc:

- the primary goal is to produce a markup language. An ontology may 
complement this in the future.

JimL:

- the EmotionXG should meet with the VoiceBrowser WG at the F2F in 
France for one hour to discuss the relation of EmotionML to PLS and SSML
- the EmotionXG should also meet with the MMI WG at the F2F in France 
for a couple of hours

Marc:

- the EmotionXG will meet on Friday at the France F2F, I will be around 
from Tuesday.
- I'll report this back to the Emotion XG and will see how many people 
will be around in France

[meeting ends]

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Note: next week (August 18):
no call, SpeechTEK

-- 
Dr. Marc Schröder, Senior Researcher at DFKI GmbH
Coordinator EU FP7 Project SEMAINE http://www.semaine-project.eu
Chair W3C Emotion ML Incubator http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion
Portal Editor http://emotion-research.net
Team Leader DFKI Speech Group http://mary.dfki.de
Project Leader DFG project PAVOQUE http://mary.dfki.de/pavoque

Homepage: http://www.dfki.de/~schroed
Email: schroed@dfki.de
Phone: +49-681-302-5303
Postal address: DFKI GmbH, Campus D3_2, Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3, D-66123 
Saarbrücken, Germany
--
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Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
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