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Re: Ubiquity SMIL project [was Re: Minutes 2009-01-13]

From: Charles F Wiecha <wiecha@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:43:24 -0500
To: "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
Cc: Backplane <public-xg-app-backplane@w3.org>, public-xg-app-backplane-request@w3.org, "Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
Message-ID: <OFBDBF7993.52F64F72-ON8525753D.00771F37-8525753D.00774BAB@us.ibm.com>

>>the Ubiquity SMIL library _already_ uses the Ubiquity loader,
>>decorator and behaviours, and thus can also be used independently of
>>the Ubiquity XForms library, or in conjunction with it.

Yup...I'm aware of that, so I think the point of our discussion was:

1. That Jack look at how this is done, and

2. As he looks to go beyond the animation parts of SMIL (which is my
current understanding of what's covered now in the Ubiquity-SMIL project)
and cover more of the spec, he considers following that methodology...

Thanks, Charlie

Charles Wiecha
Manager, Multichannel Web Interaction
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
P.O. Box 704
Yorktown Heights, N.Y.  10598
Phone: (914) 784-6180, T/L 863-6180, Cell: (914) 320-2614
wiecha@us.ibm.com



                                                                                                                               
  From:       "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>                                                                   
                                                                                                                               
  To:         Charles F Wiecha/Watson/IBM@IBMUS                                                                                
                                                                                                                               
  Cc:         Backplane <public-xg-app-backplane@w3.org>, "Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>                         
                                                                                                                               
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Hi Charlie,

Great.

But sorry if I'm being dim here as to the point that you're making :)
but the Ubiquity SMIL library _already_ uses the Ubiquity loader,
decorator and behaviours, and thus can also be used independently of
the Ubiquity XForms library, or in conjunction with it.

In other words, it's _already_ a second illustration of how a W3C
mark-up language can be implemented using this technique...

...but that might be what you mean. :)

Anyway, it's great news if people are interested in getting involved.
I'm particularly excited because I believe that for many Ajax authors,
declarative animations would be the first point of entry to the
Ubiquity suite.

Regards,

Mark

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Charles F Wiecha <wiecha@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
> Hi Mark -- yes, we discussed that project and Jack has looked at it. We
> thought that it would be ideal to base the SMIL javascript work on the
> Ubiquity loader, decorator, and behaviors approach and thus not just
> interoperate with Ubiquity but be a 2nd use case of an XML vocabulary
> implemented in that way.
>
> We should schedule some time to bring him and his team up to speed on the
> platform so he can understand more of what that would entail...I
suggested
> we use some of the Backplane calls to do this...Charlie
>
> Charles Wiecha
> Manager, Multichannel Web Interaction
> IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
> P.O. Box 704
> Yorktown Heights, N.Y. 10598
> Phone: (914) 784-6180, T/L 863-6180, Cell: (914) 320-2614
> wiecha@us.ibm.com
>
>
> "Mark Birbeck" ---01/13/2009 03:59:36 PM---Hello all, I notice in the
> minutes a reference to creating a JavaScript SMIL
>
>
> From:
> "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
> To:
> "Steven Pemberton" <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
> Cc:
> Backplane <public-xg-app-backplane@w3.org>
> Date:
> 01/13/2009 03:59 PM
> Subject:
> Ubiquity SMIL project [was Re: Minutes 2009-01-13]
> Sent by:
> public-xg-app-backplane-request@w3.org
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I notice in the minutes a reference to creating a JavaScript SMIL
> implementation.
>
> Can I just flag up that such a library already exists:
>
>  <http://ubiquity-smil.googlecode.com/>
>
> The library already includes many of the basic SMIL animation actions,
> and it takes the same architectural approach as Ubiquity XForms in
> that there is a thin layer on top of your chosen Ajax library.
> (Currently the code is targeted at YUI and prototype.js.)
>
> Unfortunately, I've just tried to run the main demo and discovered
> that it is no longer working. I'll take a look at it tomorrow, and
> with luck it won't take a lot to fix; the sample in question runs its
> animations as a result of clicking on XForms triggers, which means
> that it  loads the Ubiquity XForms library, so there is probably a
> versioning issue, or something.
>
> Anyway, if Jack is interested in putting his efforts into this
> project, rather than starting something afresh, then that would be
> very exciting.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Steven Pemberton
> <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-backplane-minutes.html
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Birbeck, webBackplane
>
> mark.birbeck@webBackplane.com
>
> http://webBackplane.com/mark-birbeck
>
> webBackplane is a trading name of Backplane Ltd. (company number
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>
>
>
>



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http://webBackplane.com/mark-birbeck

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