Re: Linked Data Shapes, Forms and Footprints

Guntur, I'm not sure I understand your question or whether anyone else 
on the listserv is interested in seeing us continue this dialog.

However, with regard to the KISS principle noted in one of the 
references you cited <https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Principles.html>, 
this famous admonition comes to mind: 
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/05/13/einstein-simple/

For business quality records, it is the underlying requirements that 
should take precedence, not the desire to make it easy for techies to 
manipulate those records via software programming code.  Indeed, to some 
degree, the reverse is true.  Once they have been completed and used in 
business transactions, records should be immutable.  That's why 
Blockchain has garnered so much attention.  See the last paragraph at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_document

With reference to your message immediately below, my interest focuses on 
networks of /human beings/ -- based upon shared values supported by 
common and complementary objectives -- and NOT on "networks of 
computer-based communications and information" per se.  Technology 
networks are means to ends and not ends unto themselves.  The architects 
of those networks should keep that in mind, which prompts consciousness 
of this infamous saying: 
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/the+inmates+are+running+the+asylum

See also http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/part2/DCMOwStyle.xml "Applications 
are optional visitors to the data."

Owen
https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/


On 12/8/2019 12:40 AM, Guntur Wiseno Putra wrote:
> Dear Owen & public-xformsusers,
>
> For the Internet and the Web, thus networks of computer-based 
> communications and informations --at least considering the Web goals 
> of interoperbility and evolvability/evolution if they are still so 
> while if it has not been changed evolution is a main concern of 
> Internet engineers--, there would supposedly be networks of 
> applications supported by languages: and there would also be those of 
> intentions/interests of users' and architects'... Is'nt it so...?
>
>
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Sabtu, 07 Desember 2019, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net 
> <mailto:Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>> menulis:
>
>     This is a bit beyond my level of technical expertise but here are
>     a couple passages on which I do have a point of view:
>
>         "... how do we build systems in which users and apps are
>         easily allowed to express useful, helpful things?"
>
>     To me, "useful, helpful" means enabling us to more easily and
>     effectively accomplish our objectives.  The first step is to think
>     clearly about what we want to accomplish and the second is to
>     document our long-term goals and near-term objectives --
>     preferably in an open, standard, machine-readable format
>     (especially if we need to engage others in order to achieve
>     them).  At that point, AI and value-added services can be applied
>     to identify the necessary inputs and processing capabilities,
>     thereby revolutionizing the ridiculously inefficient advertising
>     and marketing paradigm.
>
>     Joe Carmel initially developed these XForms to enable the
>     documentation of goals, objectives, and stakeholders in StratML
>     format: http://stratml.us/forms/Part1Form.xml
>     <http://stratml.us/forms/Part1Form.xml> &
>     http://stratml.us/forms/Part2Form.xml
>     <http://stratml.us/forms/Part2Form.xml> Jorge Sanchez is working
>     on a wizard version at
>     http://stratml.us/vionta/forms/wizard/0_mainform.xml
>     <http://stratml.us/vionta/forms/wizard/0_mainform.xml>
>
>         "The problem of where to store new data"
>
>     Why not open, machine-readable documents
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_document>, in
>     which both the semantics as well as the structure have been well
>     specified?
>
>     At scale (e.g., beyond Dunbar's Number
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number>), accountability
>     requires good, complete, and reliable records.  Triples, graphs,
>     and microcode simply will not suffice for business-quality
>     information.  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_corners_(law)
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_corners_(law)>
>
>     Owen
>
>     On 12/7/2019 9:53 AM, Guntur Wiseno Putra wrote:
>>     Dear Steven & public-xformsusers,
>>
>>     Considering its date of writing (2019/04/26) and last change
>>     (2019/07/12): if I have not been missing since then, the document
>>     has not been this list since then...
>>
>>     Berner-Lee, T, "Linked Data Shapes, Forms, and Footprints"
>>
>>     It discuss technologies to help with building apps on top of
>>     data: shapes, forms, and footprints...
>>
>>
>>     https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Footprints.html
>>     <https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Footprints.html>
>>
>>     Regard,
>>     Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>