Re: MarkupUK XForms

Dear Steven and public-xformsusers,

At least until your talk on MarkupUK it is said about xformsusers as a
Turing-complete model:

https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/Talks/2019/06-07-markup/

Opening pages on XML and I finded one titled "Evolvability" written by T.
Berner-Lee (2009):  In attempting interoperability and
evolution/evolvability as two main goals of all W3C technologies, there was
discussed an option of schema documents, which was shema option 5:
Turing-complete language recipe for conversion into other languages:
There were said about a balance between declarative language whose formulae
easily manipulated and powerful programming languages whose programmes have
to be left to see what they do, filters, and language conversion from XML...

https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Evolution.html

If there are such differences, such histories, of the understanding on
Turibg -complete model in relation with XForms...? --knowledges may be
helpful to learn on the programming language...?

Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra




Pada Sabtu, 25 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:

> Dear All,
>
> The Spectrum-IEEE's article on Alan Turing sugested a link to "Computing
> Machinery and Intellegence"
>
> https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/turing.pdf
>
> There are also other papers on Turing (Test) worked on at least by Saygin
> A.P et all., Hutchens J.L. (either alone or et all), Hayes, P et all...
>
>
> https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/
>
>
> (Those resources above are maintained by the University of Maryland
> Baltimore County Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering.)
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Jumat, 24 Mei 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>> It comes from 2018 "MarkupUK"'s proceeding "XForms 2.0 Test Suite" saying
>> about the birth of XForms 1.1 as a declarative, Turing-complete programming
>> language.
>>
>> https://markupuk.org/webhelp/index_frames.html
>>
>>
>> Recently there was a history on Alan Turing
>> "Untold History of AI: Why Alan Turing Wanted AI Agents to Make Mistakes"
>> (Schwartz, O., Spectrum- IEEE, April1st 2019)
>>
>>
>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/tech-history/dawn-of-ele
>> ctronics/untold-history-of-ai-why-alan-turing-wanted-ai-to-make-mistakes
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>>
>> Pada Selasa, 21 Mei 2019, Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
>> menulis:
>>
>>> Also worth pointing out that there are two XForms sessions at MarkupUK
>>> as well:
>>>
>>>   Declarative Applications with XForms
>>>   Steven Pemberton
>>>
>>>   XQuery for Data Workers
>>>   Alain Couthures
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>