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RE: NEW ISSUE (4072): [Guidance] Statements not relevant to assertion design

From: Asir Vedamuthu <asirveda@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:08:36 -0800
To: Daniel Roth <Daniel.Roth@microsoft.com>, "Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM" <Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM>
CC: "public-ws-policy@w3.org" <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
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>I think this is a reasonable idea (this is a
>guideline from the Framework text), but I suggest
>we deal with it as a separate issue.

I note that WG processed Fabian's suggestion as a separate issue, 4198 [1]. The remaining issue is just 4072 and ready for processing.

[1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198

Regards,

Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Roth
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:47 AM
To: Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM
Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: RE: NEW ISSUE (4072): [Guidance] Statements not relevant to assertion design


Hi Fabian,

I think this is a reasonable idea (this is a guideline from the Framework text), but I suggest we deal with it as a separate issue.

Daniel Roth

-----Original Message-----
From: Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM [mailto:Fabian.Ritzmann@Sun.COM]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:12 AM
To: Daniel Roth
Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: Re: NEW ISSUE (4072): [Guidance] Statements not relevant to assertion design

Regarding part 2 of the proposal, in addition to removing the paragraph,
I think we should add text to chapter 5 explaining that the semantics of
policy assertions and expressions must remain the same independently of
the means by which the policy expression is attached to a policy subject.

Fabian


Daniel Roth wrote:
>
> See http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072
>
> Title: [Guidance] Statements not relevant to assertion design
>
> Description:
>
> 1.) Section 4.1, 4^th paragraph states: "The number of different
> subjects to which an assertion can be attached is also a factor when
> defining an assertion. Determining the appropriate policy subjects can
> sometimes involve understanding the requirements of wide range of
> client configurations, from stand alone client applications to
> "active" web service requestors that are capable of modifying their
> own configurations dynamically." [1]
>
> Policy assertion authors should not have to consider client
> configurations, standalone client applications or active clients.
>
> 2.) Section 4.1, 5^th paragraph discusses when to use policy references.
>
> When to use policy references is not relevant to policy assertion authors.
>
> Justification: These statements are not relevant to policy assertion
> authors or policy assertion design.
>
> Target: Guidelines for Policy Assertion Authors
>
> Proposal:
>
> 1.) Remove the paragraph
>
> 2.) Remove the paragraph.
>
> [1]
> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-guidelines.html?rev=1.11&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#assertion-target
> <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-guidelines.html?rev=1.11&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#assertion-target>
>
>
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