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RE: RE: Updated Editors Draft of WS-Policy 1.5 Primer - For Approval as Public WD

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:52:52 -0700
To: "Yalcinalp, Umit" <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>, Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
CC: Prasad Yendluri <prasad.yendluri@webmethods.com>, "public-ws-policy@w3.org" <public-ws-policy@w3.org>, "public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org" <public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org>
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> It is essential to separate the content that is appropriate for the authors guideline document from the the primer target before the document becomes a PD.

I see no reason why we should hold up publication of the first WD of the Primer.  The F2F meeting agreed to publish both a Primer and a Guidelines document and we can work on eliminating problematic overlap if that is what the WG decides to do.

As I said at the first F2F:

1. "Publish early, publish often".  AND
2. "The WG does not have to have complete agreement on the content of a public WD - we just need to agree that it is time to publish a WD."

In this case we have a document ready to go and given the above principles I think we should make it public.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com




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From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yalcinalp, Umit
Sent: October 3, 2006 8:32 PM
To: Christopher B Ferris; Paul Cotton
Cc: Prasad Yendluri; public-ws-policy@w3.org; public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org; public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org
Subject: RE: Updated Editors Draft of WS-Policy 1.5 Primer - For Approval as Public WD

I am afraid I have to disagree.

Maryann and I did a sweep on the document, there are some aspects that should be resolved before we can go ahead and publish it as a public WD. We have not had the chance to file them yet. It is essential to separate the content that is appropriate for the authors guideline document from the the primer target before the document becomes a PD. It is essential to separate out the sections specifically geared to authors guidelines and follow the wg's decision on targeting two different audiences.  Of course, we are not going to be addressing all the issues before the document becomes a public draft, but once that major separation is done, the remaining detailed issues can be addressed on the public wd.

We are working on to create the issues that should be resolved in order to go forward with both documents. Therefore, I oppose making the primer a public draft as it stands today.

Thanks.

--umit

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From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christopher B Ferris
Sent: Monday, Oct 02, 2006 2:31 PM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: Prasad Yendluri; public-ws-policy@w3.org; public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org; public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org
Subject: RE: Updated Editors Draft of WS-Policy 1.5 Primer - For Approval as Public WD

+1

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
phone: +1 508 377 9295

public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org wrote on 10/02/2006 01:40:41 PM:

> I have reviewed this Editor's Draft of the WS-Policy Primer and
> think it is ready to be published as a public WD.
>
> /paulc
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com
>
>

>
> From: public-ws-policy-eds-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-
> eds-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Prasad Yendluri
> Sent: September 30, 2006 2:15 PM
> To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Cc: public-ws-policy-eds@w3.org
> Subject: Updated Editors Draft of WS-Policy 1.5 Primer - For
> Approval as P ublic WD
>
> Folks,
>
> The updated Editors Draft of the WS-Policy 1.5 Primer Document is
> available at the following links:
>
> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-primer.
> html?rev=1.16
> http://tinyuri.com/egm3 (server seems down currently)
>
> This version addresses all comments from Paul Cotton (http://lists.
> w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Sep/0165.html)
>
> This document is being submitted to the Work Group for approval as aPublic WD.
>
> Regards,
>
> WS-Policy Editing Team
Received on Wednesday, 4 October 2006 00:53:05 GMT

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