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RE: Issue 3557 (was ACTION 53

From: Asir Vedamuthu <asirveda@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:33:22 -0700
Message-ID: <4DF3D07B9910264B9470DA1F811D1A950B58E898@RED-MSG-43.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "Ashok Malhotra" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
Cc: "Yalcinalp, Umit" <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>, <public-ws-policy@w3.org>

Hi Ashok,

The following is your proposal in issue 3557:

"The external Policy Attachment mechanism uses a PolicyAttachment
element to associate a Policy with a Policy Subject.  URI References to
policy subjects may include WSDL component references, (see Appendix to
the WSDL 2.0 spec for URI structures to refer to WSFL 2.0 contsructs),
endpoint references and other domain specific configurations and
protocol constructs, such as URIs used to designate JMS queues.
This needs to be clarified in the PolicyAttachment document." -
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3557#c1 


I looked through your examples at [1].  All the examples are URI
references. That is, a URI reference is used to designate a construct.
Section 3.4 says that domain expressions are XML elements and not URI
References ('Domain expressions are XML elements that describe policy
subjects within a policy scope' [2] and '<x:DomainExpression/> +').
Perhaps, you weren't aware of it or were thinking of using a wrapper XML
element to capture a URI reference (or some other mechanism).

Is a JMS queue URI reference [3] a Web Service Policy Subject? What are
the policy subjects and policy scopes for WSDL component references (or
fragment identifiers)? How would requestors compute effective policies
for each of these policy subjects?


[1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Jul/0019.html 
[2]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-ws-policy-attach-20060731/#ExternalPolicyAt
tachment
[3] Example from Ashok - jms://example.com:7115/quoteQCF/LoanFlowQueue
 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Jul/0019.html 

Regards,
 
Asir S Vedamuthu
Microsoft Corporation


-----Original Message-----
From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Asir Vedamuthu; Yalcinalp, Umit; public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: RE: ACTION 53

Look at bugs 3557 and 3599 in bugzilla.

All the best, Ashok
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Asir Vedamuthu [mailto:asirveda@microsoft.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:06 PM
> To: Yalcinalp, Umit; Ashok Malhotra; public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ACTION 53
> 
> > Please see the proposed text.
> 
> Where is the proposed text? (I'll appreciate if you could 
> send it to the mailing list). What is the proposed location 
> for the proposed text?
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Asir S Vedamuthu
> Microsoft Corporation
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yalcinalp, Umit
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:58 PM
> To: Ashok Malhotra; public-ws-policy@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ACTION 53
> 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org 
> > [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ashok Malhotra
> > Sent: Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 6:20 AM
> > To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
> > Subject: ACTION 53
> > 
> > 
> > In response to ACTION 53 I have added a comment to Bug 3557 and 
> > created a new bug 3599.
> > 
> > All the best, Ashok
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Just to add Ashok's note, we have discussed and decided to 
> address two separate issues with respect to bug 3557 that 
> results in this partitioning. This partitioning completes our 
> action item [Action53]. 
> 
> (a) We propose to add the text in Ashok's text added in Bug 
> 3557 to illustrate examples of external references to policy 
> subjects [3557].
> Please see the proposed text. 
>   
> (b) We proposed a new bug to address the usage of URIs to 
> WSDL 1.1 components in this context. [3599] 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> --umit
> 
> [Action53] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/53
> [3599] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3599
> [3557] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3557
> 
> 
> 
Received on Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:33:47 GMT

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