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Re: SOAP pattenrs vs. WSDL patterns

From: Umit Yalcinalp <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:04:26 -0700
Message-ID: <3EFCB15A.3070509@oracle.com>
To: Amy Lewis <alewis@tibco.com>
CC: Jean-Jacques Moreau <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>, dbooth@w3.org, public-ws-desc-meps@w3.org, youenn.fablet@crf.canon.fr


Amy Lewis wrote:

>Sounds all correct to me.  David, Umit?  Anyone else?
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Sounds correct to me as well.

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>I think that possibly we need to state these as requirements, or
>indicate that the logic of the thing imposes these requirements.
>
I agree with Jean-Jacques, too. They are definitely requirements.

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>Amy!
>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:49:26 +0200
>"Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr> wrote:
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>>I'm still somewhat puzzled. (Although I think I agree.)
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>>Let me try to paraphrase.
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>>WSDL must support more than SOAP. So, at the interface level, we need
>>to use WSDL patterns, not SOAP MEPs. In bindings other than the SOAP 
>>binding, we need to support MEPs other than the SOAP MEPs. In the SOAP
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>>binding, of course, we need to support SOAP MEPs.
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>>The MEPs used in a particular binding must be compatible with the WSDL
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>>patterns used in the corresponding interface/operation.
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>>Maybe this is more than paraphrasing; maybe the above are
>>requirements.
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>>Jean-Jacques.
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>>Amy Lewis wrote:
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>>>Sorry.
>>>
>>>If WSDL supports more than SOAP (as I believe that it does), then we
>>>must support message exchange patterns that they define.  We cannot
>>>restrict the set of available MEPs at the binding level to only
>>>those defined by SOAP, because WSDL supports binding styles other
>>>than SOAP.
>>>
>>>Amy!
>>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:31:53 +0200
>>>"Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr> wrote:
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>>>>I'm lost by the double negative (can't-only). Didn't you mean
>>>>something different?
>>>>
>>>>Jean-Jacques.
>>>>
>>>>Amy Lewis wrote:
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>>>>>We can't mandate SOAP MEPs only at the binding level, if we plan to
>>>>>support bindings other than SOAP.  Can we?
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Umit Yalcinalp                                  
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ORACLE
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