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Re: SOAP pattenrs vs. WSDL patterns

From: Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:03:02 +0600
Message-ID: <043501c33e2e$04b20860$02c8a8c0@lankabook2>
To: "Umit Yalcinalp" <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>, "Amy Lewis" <alewis@tibco.com>
Cc: "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>, <dbooth@w3.org>, <public-ws-desc-meps@w3.org>, <youenn.fablet@crf.canon.fr>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Umit Yalcinalp" <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>
To: "Amy Lewis" <alewis@tibco.com>
Cc: "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>;
<dbooth@w3.org>; <public-ws-desc-meps@w3.org>; <youenn.fablet@crf.canon.fr>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: SOAP pattenrs vs. WSDL patterns


>
>
> Amy Lewis wrote:
>
> >Sounds all correct to me.  David, Umit?  Anyone else?
> >
> Sounds correct to me as well.
>
> >
> >I think that possibly we need to state these as requirements, or
> >indicate that the logic of the thing imposes these requirements.
> >
> I agree with Jean-Jacques, too. They are definitely requirements.
>
> >
> >Amy!
> >On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:49:26 +0200
> >"Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I'm still somewhat puzzled. (Although I think I agree.)
> >>
> >>Let me try to paraphrase.
> >>
> >>WSDL must support more than SOAP. So, at the interface level, we need
> >>to use WSDL patterns, not SOAP MEPs. In bindings other than the SOAP
> >>binding, we need to support MEPs other than the SOAP MEPs. In the SOAP
> >>
> >>binding, of course, we need to support SOAP MEPs.
> >>
> >>The MEPs used in a particular binding must be compatible with the WSDL
> >>
> >>patterns used in the corresponding interface/operation.
> >>
> >>Maybe this is more than paraphrasing; maybe the above are
> >>requirements.
> >>
> >>Jean-Jacques.
> >>
> >>Amy Lewis wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Sorry.
> >>>
> >>>If WSDL supports more than SOAP (as I believe that it does), then we
> >>>must support message exchange patterns that they define.  We cannot
> >>>restrict the set of available MEPs at the binding level to only
> >>>those defined by SOAP, because WSDL supports binding styles other
> >>>than SOAP.
> >>>
> >>>Amy!
> >>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:31:53 +0200
> >>>"Jean-Jacques Moreau" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm lost by the double negative (can't-only). Didn't you mean
> >>>>something different?
> >>>>
> >>>>Jean-Jacques.
> >>>>
> >>>>Amy Lewis wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>We can't mandate SOAP MEPs only at the binding level, if we plan to
> >>>>>support bindings other than SOAP.  Can we?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Umit Yalcinalp
> Consulting Member of Technical Staff
> ORACLE
> Phone: +1 650 607 6154
> Email: umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com
>
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