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Re: Simple Choreography composition suggestion

From: Monica J. Martin <monica.martin@sun.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:22:30 -0600
Message-ID: <3F1810B6.6060006@sun.com>
To: "Fletcher, Tony" <Tony.Fletcher@choreology.com>
CC: Ugo Corda <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>, public-ws-chor@w3.org

#2 to Tony
#3 to others

Fletcher, Tony wrote:

>+1 from Tony
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>[mailto:public-ws-chor-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ugo Corda
>Sent: 16 July 2003 21:40
>To: Fletcher, Tony; public-ws-chor@w3.org
>Subject: RE: Simple Choreography composition suggestion
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>>The point I disagree with is the notion that something is not a 
>>Choreography if somewhere, at some level it involves 'orchestration' 
>>within a single system.
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>I completely agree with you. If we take BPEL as an example of
>orchestration, then the BPEL process interacts with a bunch of Web
>services, and the process itself is a Web service (by definition). So we
>have a few Web services (the BPEL process itself plus the other Web
>services that BPEL interacts with) which exchange messages among
>themselves - messages which most likely involves a change of state of
>the various Web services involved. So this configuration of Web services
>should be describable via a choreography (by definition).
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>For instance, let's look at the Purchase Order process described in BPEL
>1.1 (sec. 6.1) as a concrete example. Seen from "outside" this BPEL
>process is just a Web service exposing a purchaseOrderPT portType, so it
>can take part in any choreography where other Web services interact with
>this one using that particular portType.
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>But if we look "inside" the Purchase Order Web service itself, we find
>out that it also interacts with other "internal" Web services, i.e. the
>Invoice, Scheduling and Shipping Web services (by sending messages to
>those Web services and by receiving messages from them on its
>invoiceCallbackPT and shippingCallbackPT portTypes - all these message
>exchanges being controlled by the BPEL process itself). So we can in
>principle describe these four Web services and their interactions using
>another choreography. And this latter choreography composes (i.e.
>interacts) with the former one via messages exchanged over the
>purchaseOrderPT portType.
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>Ugo
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