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RE: Visitors Guide to Vancouver

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:39:34 -0800
Message-ID: <E16EB59B8AEDF445B644617E3C1B3C9C3B5055@repbex01.amer.bea.com>
To: <tom@coastin.com>
Cc: "Rogers, Tony" <Tony.Rogers@ca.com>, "David Hull" <dmh@tibco.com>, <public-ws-addressing@w3.org>

Oh definitely.  HNC is definitely central Canada/Toronto centric.
Constant source of Western irritation.  TSN (aka The Sports Network) is
usually called "Toronto Sports Network".  They can't stop talking about
the Toronto Maple Leafs.  Yes, indeed it is "Leafs", not the Maple
Leaves.  

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Rutt [mailto:tom@coastin.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:34 PM
> To: David Orchard
> Cc: Rogers, Tony; David Hull; public-ws-addressing@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Visitors Guide to Vancouver
> 
> David Orchard wrote:
> 
> >Huh.  On the "Wet coast", we often pronounce schedule with the hard
"k"
> >sound.  I wonder if that the "sh" version is a central Canada thingy.
> >
> >
> The announces on "hocky night in Canada" (we got Canadian TV in
Detroit
> as well) also said "shedule"
> 
> I guess they are from central Canada.
> 
> Just like US TV announcers typially sound like they are from Chicago
> (except for the late Peter Jennings who kept a slight
> Canadian accent out of National pride).
> 
> Tom
> 
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Tom Rutt [mailto:tom@coastin.com]
> >>Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:19 PM
> >>To: David Orchard
> >>Cc: Rogers, Tony; David Hull; public-ws-addressing@w3.org
> >>Subject: Re: Visitors Guide to Vancouver
> >>
> >>David Orchard wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Two shots, nice!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Canadians generally do not consider themselves American, no more
> >>>
> >>>
> >than
> >
> >
> >>>Massachusetts or Californian residents pride themselves on being
> >>>Alabamans or Texans.  And no more than Argentinian's or Brazillians
> >>>consider themselves "American" because they live in South America.
> >>>Different political entities and all that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>One tip that I can readily offer is that if you would like to "go
> >>>native" in Canada, you can try a slightly different saying of words
> >>>that contain "out", starting with "out and about".  It sounds
almost
> >>>like "oot", as in "oot and aboot".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I grew up in Detroit, which is a suburb of Windsor Ontario Canada.
> >>
> >>Since I am a native US american, I feel I should give my percieved
> >>pronounciation of "out and about" in Canadian
> >>
> >>it is more like "ouoot" and "abouut", ( actually halfway between
that
> >>and what Dave suggests).
> >>
> >>They also pronunce schedule as "shedule", just like our British
pals.
> >>
> >>Tom Rutt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>  Another trick is to periodically end sentences with "eh".  One
> >>>
> >>>
> >thing
> >
> >
> >>>not to do, is to wear a backpack with a big Canadian flag.
> >>>
> >>>
> >Apparently
> >
> >
> >>>that's mandatory gear for Americans traveling to Europe these days.
> >>>But people can always tell the difference, because Canadians of
> >>>
> >>>
> >course
> >
> >
> >>>have a small Canadian flag on their back pack.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >
> >
> >>>*From:* Rogers, Tony [mailto:Tony.Rogers@ca.com]
> >>>*Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:12 PM
> >>>*To:* David Hull; David Orchard
> >>>*Cc:* public-ws-addressing@w3.org
> >>>*Subject:* RE: Visitors Guide to Vancouver
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You really have to watch the Canadian spellings, too - most
> >>>English-speaking countries have "straits", but they have
"straights"
> >>>
> >>>
> >-
> >
> >
> >>>any bets that their "straights" are narrow?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>:-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >
> >
> >>>*From:* public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org on behalf of David Hull
> >>>*Sent:* Mon 09-Jan-06 17:08
> >>>*To:* David Orchard
> >>>*Cc:* public-ws-addressing@w3.org
> >>>*Subject:* Re: Visitors Guide to Vancouver
> >>>
> >>>Dave,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the writeup, and particularly the native's perspective.
> >>>
> >>>
> >A
> >
> >
> >>>few questions come to mind:
> >>>
> >>>    * Do people speak mainly Canadian there, or will they
understand
> >>>      English?
> >>>    * I notice that public parks are measured in hectares and speed
> >>>      limits in km/h, but seawalls are measured in miles.  Are
there
> >>>      any other interesting non-metric measurements in use?
> >>>    * Will my CDs still play in Canada, or will they have to be
> >>>      converted to metric?
> >>>    * Do Canadians consider themselves American, and if not, what
> >>>      continent do they claim to live on?
> >>>
> >>>Seriously though, I still remember an incident from fifteen years
or
> >>>so ago at a service counter somewhere in the bowels of YYZ.  I was
> >>>coming back from the Netherlands and had plenty of time to make my
> >>>connection.  The gentleman ahead of me, also from the US, was not
so
> >>>fortunate.  Growing ever more irate, he told the clerk that he had
> >>>been at the gate N minutes before departure (I forget what value of
> >>>N).  The clerk informed him that he had need to be there N+k
minutes
> >>>before departure.  "No," the gentleman said, "the FAA regulations
> >>>
> >>>
> >say
> >
> >
> >>>N minutes."   "Sir," the clerk said, "it's N+k minutes," and then,
> >>>with a perfectly timed pause and icy politeness, "You're in a
> >>>different country, sir."
> >>>
> >>>David Orchard wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I've written up a Visitor's Guide to Vancouver at
> >>>
> >>>http://www.pacificspirit.com/VancouverGuide.html.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hopefully this will provide some useful information for visitors.
> >>>
> >>>
> >Let
> >
> >
> >>>me know if you have any comments, criticisms, suggestions.  Bear in
> >>>
> >>>
> >mind
> >
> >
> >>>I've been somewhat time constrained of late :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Huge, Mark, can we get this linked to from the w3c wsa registration
> >>>
> >>>pages?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>----------------------------------------------------
> >>Tom Rutt	email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com
> >>Tel: +1 732 801 5744          Fax: +1 732 774 5133
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Tom Rutt	email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com
> Tel: +1 732 801 5744          Fax: +1 732 774 5133
> 
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