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RE: Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference Properties and Parameters (without a wrapper!)

From: Srinivas, Davanum M <Davanum.Srinivas@ca.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:21:46 -0500
Message-ID: <87527035FDD42A428221FA578D4A9A5B086CF19C@usilms24.ca.com>
To: "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com>, "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Glen Daniels" <gdaniels@sonicsoftware.com>, <public-ws-addressing@w3.org>, <public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org>

In other words...there is no way to do this automatically.

-- dims 

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Gudgin [mailto:mgudgin@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:52 AM
To: Srinivas, Davanum M; Christopher B Ferris
Cc: Glen Daniels; public-ws-addressing@w3.org;
public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org
Subject: RE: Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference Properties
and Parameters (without a wrapper!)

Personally, I'd just use different Qnames.

Gudge 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Srinivas, 
> Davanum M
> Sent: 23 November 2004 14:45
> To: Christopher B Ferris
> Cc: Glen Daniels; public-ws-addressing@w3.org; 
> public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference Properties

> and Parameters (without a wrapper!)
> 
> 
> RefParams and RefProps are used for 2 different things and we don't 
> want to know which one is which?????? If I am a management proxy and 
> my user wants to track only RefParams for his web service endpoint, i 
> should be able to do that without asking my user to type in the 
> Qname's for each RefParam?
> 
> -- dims
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher B Ferris [mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:36 AM
> To: Srinivas, Davanum M
> Cc: Glen Daniels; public-ws-addressing@w3.org; 
> public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference Properties

> and Parameters (without a wrapper!)
> 
> It is irrelevant. It is assumed that the endpoint that receives these 
> SOAP header blocks knows why it put them in the EPR in the first 
> place.
> There is no need to distinguish which were ref props and which were 
> ref params in the EPR.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christopher Ferris
> STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> blog: http://webpages.charter.net/chrisfer/blog.html
> phone: +1 508 377 9295
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> "Srinivas, Davanum M" <Davanum.Srinivas@ca.com> Sent by:
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> RE: Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference Properties and 
> Parameters (without a wrapper!)
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> Next question, when you get a soap message on the wire with "four 
> other random headers" how do you distinguish that a few of them are 
> RefProp's and others are RefParam's? See my point?
> 
> -- dims
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Daniels [mailto:gdaniels@sonicsoftware.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:21 AM
> To: Srinivas, Davanum M
> Cc: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference Properties

> and Parameters (without a wrapper!)
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> > Does anyone have a Sample SOAP message on the wire with Reference 
> > Properties AND Parameters (without a wrapper element!)?
> 
> Uh, sure - pick any SOAP message with <wsa:To>, <wsa:Action>, and 
> let's say four other random headers.  You can then construct EPRs 
> which have those other headers as either RefProps or RefParams.  
> Voila.
> 
> --Glen
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