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[whatwg] HTML 5, OGG, competition, civil rights, and persons with disabilities

From: Manuel Amador <rudd-o@rudd-o.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:07:10 -0500
Message-ID: <200712111907.10191.rudd-o@rudd-o.com>
Well, consensus is going to be hard to find, with the conflicts of interest at 
play here.  And all that we want is that Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora, being the 
ideal balance between least-encumbered and technically sufficient options, be 
mentioned in the document that will be read by millions -- even if it wasn't 
a SHOULD but a MAY or an ITWOULDBENICE.  They more than deserve it.

So, here's a challenge.  Does Apple really *only* want to be able to claim 
SHOULD conformance?  Reinstate the paragraph and put MAY instead of SHOULD, 
then go crazy authoring H.264 content for the VIDEO tag.  That resolution 
lets you have SHOULD conformance.  If you refuse, we know that it's a market 
and monopoly thing.  If you accept, we know you were being straightforward 
all along.

El Mar 11 Dic 2007, Dave Singer escribi?:
> At 13:45  -0500 11/12/07, Fernando wrote:
> >Please reconsider the decision to exclude the recommendation of the
>
> Theora/OGG Vorbis codec in HTML 5 guidelines.
>
> This entire discussion is founded on a major misapprehension:  that
> there has been a decision, and that decision was to exclude.  This is
> simply not true;  there is no decision either to include or exclude.
> There is a recognition that work is needed.
>
> I and others have spent a great deal of time on this problem already,
> working with a number of people, including the W3C staff.  Many of us
> -- maybe all of us -- agree we need to find a solution that enables
> broad interoperability and is in accord with w3c and web practices.
> We have not yet reached consensus on having found it.  That's all.



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