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Re: Webplatform dead?

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:17:24 -0400
Message-ID: <553550C4.1040100@w3.org>
To: Francesco Iovine <f.iovine@gmail.com>, Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com>
CC: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Great idea, Francesco!

Let us know what we can do to help.

On 4/20/15 9:44 AM, Francesco Iovine wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've recently stepped up as organiser of the following meetup group in
> London, and rebranded it as Web Platform London, as an experiment:
>
> http://www.meetup.com/WebPlatform-London/
>
> The idea behind this experiment is to promote self-organised free
> meetups, in cafes or offices, but mainly in cafes, of people keen to
> share a project, knowledge etc. and participate in building the Web
> Platform with a number of activities, including writing documentation.
>
> I would love your feedback, before giving up or start building the
> community.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Francesco <http://www.francesco.iovine.name/>
>
>
> On 11 April 2015 at 10:01, Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com
> <mailto:Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
>     On a personal note. I wanted to contribute more than I have... Life
>     gets in the way.  Maybe you have given me the prompt I need to get
>     more involved.
>
>     Kindest Regards
>     Martin Beeby
>     Technical Evangelist
>     Skype: thebeebsuk
>     Twitter: thebeebs
>     Phone: 0118 9092895
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     From: PhistucK <mailto:phistuck@gmail.com>
>     Sent: ‎11/‎04/‎2015 09:48
>     To: Jonathan Garbee <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>
>     Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>
>     Subject: Re: Webplatform dead?
>
>     While it is not dead, some vendors (or a single vendor?) are
>     instructing their members to prefer
>     <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/2_hw97dJ0NQJ>
>     other
>     <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/fhNVU0s8DCQJ>
>     documentation venues.
>     To me, this is really sad.
>
>     Perhaps you can do something about it?
>
>
>     ☆*PhistucK*
>
>     On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Garbee
>     <jonathan@garbee..me <mailto:jonathan@garbee.me>> wrote:
>
>         These kinds of projects also don't just get a jump start then
>         take off and keep going. Initial interest happens, all the
>         people who are just interested head out, then you are left with
>         a far smaller group of core contributors. Then over time that
>         core group even changes as life happens and new shiny things
>         come along. (Try to recall the often provided bell-curve of tech
>         adoption, then make the curve narrower and far more dramatic.
>         Then toss a few more curves in over time.)
>
>         Documentation projects in particular have one major flaw, people
>         don't feel it is worth their time to contribute. They are paid
>         to do write code that functions and move on to the next thing.
>         So taking time out to contribute to a document is hardly on
>         their mind. WPD is in a very slow-pace area and we want
>         contributors that really care about the quality of their work.
>         That quality comes at the cost of things moving even slower.
>
>         Things aren't dead, they are just stagnant. As WPD offers wider
>         community engagement then hopefully we can collect a few more
>         core contributors that will make things not seem so slow. I'd
>         much rather have a handful of core contributors that do true
>         quality work then an army of low-quality contributions that
>         makes things seem more active. The content provided is far more
>         useful in the end that way.
>
>         On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org
>         <mailto:schepers@w3.org>> wrote:
>
>             Yes, Austin has been a really prolific contributor
>             (thanks!), and we also have Nishanth Babu adding beginner
>             DOM tutorials, among many other contributors and content.
>
>             We've actually concentrated quite a lot on infrastructure
>             over the last few months; Renoir has done a great job.
>
>             We're even adding over some new functionality, like
>             specs.webplatform.org <http://specs..webplatform.org> that
>             hosts more experimental specifications, and adding a
>             technical discussion area where developers and designers can
>             ask questions about spec development. Our emphasis is on
>             closing the gap between standards development and developers.
>
>             Regards–
>             –Doug
>
>             On 4/10/15 6:31 PM, Austin William Wright wrote:
>
>                 Slow maybe, not dead. Over the last month I've touched
>                 almost all the
>                 HTML element pages, merging duplicates, adding examples,
>                 correcting
>                 normative references, and importing data.
>
>                 I also noticed a great TLS/HTTPS upgrade, and MediaWiki
>                 upgrade, iirc.
>                 So even the server is getting love, it's not just me.
>
>                 Austin Wright.
>
>                 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ric Johnson
>                 <ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>
>                 <mailto:ric@opendomain.org <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                      Is the WebPlatform project dead?  I have not seen
>                 any progress in
>                      quite a while.
>
>                      I thought this was an amazing chance to help new
>                 developers learn
>                      web technologies, but it seems that we have dropped
>                 the ball.
>
>                      Is there anyone interested in kicking this project
>                 back on gear?
>
>                      Ric Johnson
>                      OpenDomain
>
>
>
>
>
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