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Re: Webplatform dead?

From: Francesco Iovine <f.iovine@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:44:35 +0100
Message-ID: <CALE=BGS6=n2TXrYTqQ_ciP3jg1wwjUJDBA=4AjO0mHn7LdQ4dw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com>
Cc: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Hello all,

I've recently stepped up as organiser of the following meetup group in
London, and rebranded it as Web Platform London, as an experiment:

http://www.meetup.com/WebPlatform-London/

The idea behind this experiment is to promote self-organised free meetups,
in cafes or offices, but mainly in cafes, of people keen to share a
project, knowledge etc. and participate in building the Web Platform with a
number of activities, including writing documentation.

I would love your feedback, before giving up or start building the
community.

Warm Regards,

Francesco <http://www.francesco.iovine.name/>


On 11 April 2015 at 10:01, Martin Beeby <Martin.Beeby@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  On a personal note. I wanted to contribute more than I have... Life gets
> in the way.  Maybe you have given me the prompt I need to get more involved.
>
> Kindest Regards
> Martin Beeby
> Technical Evangelist
> Skype: thebeebsuk
> Twitter: thebeebs
> Phone: 0118 9092895
>  ------------------------------
> From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎11/‎04/‎2015 09:48
> To: Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>
> Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Webplatform dead?
>
>   While it is not dead, some vendors (or a single vendor?) are
> instructing their members to prefer
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/2_hw97dJ0NQJ>
>  other
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/RNk93vpOaV8/fhNVU0s8DCQJ>
> documentation venues.
> To me, this is really sad.
>
>  Perhaps you can do something about it?
>
>
>  ☆*PhistucK*
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee..me
> <jonathan@garbee.me>> wrote:
>
>> These kinds of projects also don't just get a jump start then take off
>> and keep going. Initial interest happens, all the people who are just
>> interested head out, then you are left with a far smaller group of core
>> contributors. Then over time that core group even changes as life happens
>> and new shiny things come along. (Try to recall the often provided
>> bell-curve of tech adoption, then make the curve narrower and far more
>> dramatic. Then toss a few more curves in over time.)
>>
>>  Documentation projects in particular have one major flaw, people don't
>> feel it is worth their time to contribute. They are paid to do write code
>> that functions and move on to the next thing. So taking time out to
>> contribute to a document is hardly on their mind. WPD is in a very
>> slow-pace area and we want contributors that really care about the quality
>> of their work. That quality comes at the cost of things moving even slower.
>>
>>  Things aren't dead, they are just stagnant. As WPD offers wider
>> community engagement then hopefully we can collect a few more core
>> contributors that will make things not seem so slow. I'd much rather have a
>> handful of core contributors that do true quality work then an army of
>> low-quality contributions that makes things seem more active. The content
>> provided is far more useful in the end that way.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Austin has been a really prolific contributor (thanks!), and we
>>> also have Nishanth Babu adding beginner DOM tutorials, among many other
>>> contributors and content.
>>>
>>> We've actually concentrated quite a lot on infrastructure over the last
>>> few months; Renoir has done a great job.
>>>
>>> We're even adding over some new functionality, like
>>> specs.webplatform.org <http://specs..webplatform.org> that hosts more
>>> experimental specifications, and adding a technical discussion area where
>>> developers and designers can ask questions about spec development. Our
>>> emphasis is on closing the gap between standards development and developers.
>>>
>>> Regards–
>>> –Doug
>>>
>>> On 4/10/15 6:31 PM, Austin William Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>> Slow maybe, not dead. Over the last month I've touched almost all the
>>>> HTML element pages, merging duplicates, adding examples, correcting
>>>> normative references, and importing data.
>>>>
>>>> I also noticed a great TLS/HTTPS upgrade, and MediaWiki upgrade, iirc.
>>>> So even the server is getting love, it's not just me.
>>>>
>>>> Austin Wright.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ric Johnson <ric@opendomain.org
>>>> <mailto:ric@opendomain.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Is the WebPlatform project dead?  I have not seen any progress in
>>>>     quite a while.
>>>>
>>>>     I thought this was an amazing chance to help new developers learn
>>>>     web technologies, but it seems that we have dropped the ball.
>>>>
>>>>     Is there anyone interested in kicking this project back on gear?
>>>>
>>>>     Ric Johnson
>>>>     OpenDomain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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