RE: Feedback for CSS properties pages on WPD?

I want to comment on something that was brought up in the original mail:

>> - The properties page, at first glance, seems weird because the entire top section of the content area is dominated by -ms- properties I've never even heard of. http://cl.ly/image/3X2L0n0k0f2f I'm not sure what the solution is there since perhaps it's just alpha order. Maybe a "popular pages" section on top that has some of the more useful pages or recently updated pages?
>>

Those prefixed properties, etc. should be removed. When we first brought over the MSDN content into WPD, we took all of the Microsoft reference content in each larger topic area (graphics, controls, HTML, etc.), converted it to MediaWiki format, and created pages on a 1:1 basis. We knew that there would be Microsoft-specific content that would port over, and we said that we'd address it later. It seems like "later" is approaching--or even here now. Given this thread and the other thread about deletion candidates, perhaps it is time to identify a project around proprietary content:
--proprietary content should be marked as candidate for deletion.
--those candidates should be systematically reviewed.
--the correct topics should be removed.

This shouldn't rise to the level of something we need to address immediately, though we should scope out what's entailed.

And to answer the second part of the comment, we have ways of sorting tables. Sorting by most-viewed (in addition to alphabetically and other means) should be easy to rig up.

Though my time is limited, I am happy to help or advise, especially if it alleviates any hesitation about removing Microsoft content.

Eliot 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Mills [mailto:cmills@w3.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:22 AM
> To: Chris Coyier
> Cc: public-webplatform@w3.org; Lea Verou
> Subject: Re: Feedback for CSS properties pages on WPD?
> 
> Thanks for the feedback Chris - very much appreciated!
> 
> Chris Mills
> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3:
> Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
> 
> On 16 May 2013, at 11:51, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Thank you so much for the feedback! I’m forwarding it to the list as well,
> this is very helpful!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lea
> >
> > Lea Verou
> > W3C developer relations
> > http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 13, 2013, at 20:32, Chris Coyier <chriscoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Lea,
> >>
> >> Looking good! Here's some randomish thoughts:
> >>
> >> - The properties page, at first glance, seems weird because the entire top
> section of the content area is dominated by -ms- properties I've never even
> heard of. http://cl.ly/image/3X2L0n0k0f2f I'm not sure what the solution is
> there since perhaps it's just alpha order. Maybe a "popular pages" section on
> top that has some of the more useful pages or recently updated pages?
> >>
> >> - Visual demos are so powerful. It's awesome you have the custom
> Dabblet thing in there, it would be cool to see individual property pages with
> embedded demos rather than links out.
> >>
> >> - The table of contents on each property is nice!
> >>
> >> - Perhaps there could be a feature where you check which browsers you
> want to support, and it gives you the syntax you should use (which prefixes).
> Although I dunno, the world of prefixes may be behind us soon enough.
> >>
> >> - Broken image at the bottom: http://cl.ly/image/2V0y321N3c1U

> >>
> >> - I love all the basic concepts: it's a wiki, it has the same format for all of
> them, it lists browser support, it lists related properties, it lists quirks. That's
> exactly what it needs to be.
> >>
> >> - I also maintain an "almanac" of properties. e.g. http://css-

> tricks.com/almanac/properties/b/border-radius/ My approach is slightly
> different in that I want to make it as approachable and plain-talking as
> possible, with as many simple real demos as needed to explain it. I just
> mention it in case you hadn't seen it and can draw ideas from there.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Chris Coyier
> >> CodePen  |  CSS-Tricks  |  ShopTalk
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org> wrote:
> >> Hey Chris,
> >>
> >> Hope you’re well.
> >>
> >> As you might know, a part of my work at W3C is on WebPlatform.org,
> which I’m sure you’ve heard. We are currently focusing a lot on our CSS
> properties documentation [1] and we’re looking for feedback. While
> discussing who to ask for valuable feedback, your name came up first, by a
> number of people. Would you mind taking a look at the CSS property pages
> (e.g. here’s the border-radius one: [2]) and letting me know what you think
> and any ways you can think of, to improve them?
> >>
> >> Thanks!!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Lea
> >>
> >> [1]: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties

> >> [2]: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/border-radius

> >>
> >> Lea Verou
> >> W3C developer relations
> >> http://w3.org/people/all#leahttp://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 
> 

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