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RE: Agenda items for Friday's general meeting?

From: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:28:26 +0000
To: Jen Simmons <jen@jensimmons.com>, Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com>
CC: Julee <julee@adobe.com>, WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org>, Max Polk <maxpolk@gmail.com>, Eliezer Bernart <eliezerbernart@gmail.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>
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Hi Jen.

Thank you soooooooo much for putting these together. This is a wonderful and strong foundation from which we can proceed.

Two general places to start the discussion:
1) I've heard a lot of people sing the praises of the way information is rendered in HTML: The Markup Language [1] and the W3C Cheat Sheet [2] derived from the former. Given that these are terse summaries of the attributes, values, etc., I would suggest that we move those items to the top of the page, where developers could scan for the information without having to scroll past the (hopefully robust) examples on the page.

2) It's interesting to see the sample code and live sample side by side; however, in my experience there's precious little line space available for code on a well-designed page. I wonder if cutting that in half would hamper how the code is displayed on the page (hard to discern line breaks, etc.)? IMHO, having a link to code.webplatform.org open in another instance of the browser is ample access to the live sample and allows for a less cluttered reference page. Do you feel there's more efficacy in having the live sample immediately visible?

I will unfortunately, be in transit through most of this morning's meeting but will be on the phone.

Again, thanks so much for pulling these together!!!!!

Eliot

[1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/blockquote.html#blockquote
[2] http://www.w3.org/2009/cheatsheet/#search,blockquote 

From: jensimmons@gmail.com [mailto:jensimmons@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jen Simmons
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 5:45 AM
To: Alex Komoroske
Cc: Eliot Graff; Julee; WebPlatform Public List; Max Polk; Eliezer Bernart; David Singer
Subject: Re: Agenda items for Friday's general meeting?

Hello all,
I'm attaching two pdfs showing a proposed content design for the HTML element pages. I've been designing using real content, so do read what's there and think about whether/not this structure will work with the range of content for HTML. 

I wanted to create enough structure to help enforce consistency, but enough flexibility to support the diversity of elements. I also wrote this content with newbies in mind - students, pro developers who still haven't really learned the basics of HTML (sadly, that's a huge number of people), etc. Many of the other reference documents I looked at expect a intermediate to advanced level of knowledge and mastery. I'm hoping this group will agree that our documentation should work for all levels of user - from total newbie to ultimate master. This draft is my first attempt to find that balance.  

We'll talk about this in the meeting today. 

Jen


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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com> wrote:
Unfortunately I won't be able to attend this week's meeting because I'm in Sydney this week.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> wrote:
Is the a link to the mockup of the html elements page?

Thanks,

Eliot
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From: Julee
Sent: 12/5/2013 3:45 PM

To: WebPlatform Public List
Cc: jensimmons@gmail.com; Max Polk; Eliezer Bernart; David Singer
Subject: Agenda items for Friday's general meeting?
Hi, folks:

Here are some things we could give status about:

* Jen Simmons has a mock up of the HTML elements pages
* Max Polk has done the 3rd JS import
* Eliezer Bernart is on templates
* David Singer has proposed a WebVTT content project

Any other status or topics for tomorrow?

Thanks.

Julee
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