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Re: Page Status Indicators

From: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:41:48 -0800
To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, WebPlatform Community <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CEC4DB3A.A2E53%jburdeki@adobe.com>
This is great news! Thanks much, Eliezer & Doug!!

As far as losing all of the existing flags, that’s a big deal, no? Is
there no way to flag flagged pages? — Ugh. Just the sound of that question
intimates a difficult solution, but let me propose:

We already have a “Block of editorial notes” field where we can store some
values on the page. Let’s do a script and retain flagging in this way:

* Get the values of current flags on the page.
* Change old values to new values.[1]
* Prepend new values to “Block of editorial notes” field with some unique
delimiter.

Then, we can change the template and work in reverse:

* Search page for new flags in “Block of editorial notes” field.
* Set new flags accordingly.

Too complicated?

Julee

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnXre3v9CjJXdDBUYk9qMlFuODV3M3

hReUFBS1JieXc&usp=sharing

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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Organization: W3C
Date: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM
To: WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Subject: Page Status Indicators
Resent-From: WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM

>Hi, folks–
>
>Last night, Eliezer Bernart (eliezerb) tackled one of our big
>outstanding actions (with my modest guidance): the page status markers.
>
>JuLee encouraged Eliezer to learn Semantic MediaWiki templates, given
>our dwindling resources there, and he really dived in. He asked for a
>specific task, and I suggested that he look at the outstanding flags
>issue.
>
>As background, we've already discussed that many people find the large
>number of flags on a page (and their presentation) as intimidating and
>discouraging, both for reading and for editing. We had general (though
>imperfect) consensus that we should simplify the flags.
>
>On a related note, we also wanted to make sure sure that readers knew
>what content they could trust, and what was less complete or reliable.
>This dovetails with the initial goal for flags.
>
>Eliot proposed the following set of minimal flags to reflect the various
>content statuses:
>
>* Unconfirmed import
>* Needs review
>* Missing Content
>* Deletion/Move candidate
>* Contains Errors
>
>We agreed that this is one of the tasks that we needed completed before
>we announced the CSS milestone.
>
>Eliezer has run a test on the flags template in the /test wiki, removing
>the unwanted flags. If a page has any flags checked, it will show on the
>page [2]; if no flags are checked, it will not show any flag markers
>[3]. Once we get the wording settled, this should be a clear indicator
>of a page's readiness (or unreadiness).
>
>You can also see that this is much less intimidating to edit [4].
>
>Eliezer noted that if we change the flags template in the main wiki, we
>will lose all of the existing flags; I think this is unavoidable. He
>also explained that while he can set a flag as checked by default (e.g.
>"need review") for new pages, existing pages can't have any flags
>checked by default; so, we will need to find a way to efficiently check
>the "need review" flag for all pages we aren't confident about, so we
>can highlight the readiness of the CSS and certain API pages (maybe we
>could use a script to do this auto-checking?).
>
>I wanted to confirm with the community that this is the path we want to
>follow. What do you all think?
>
>Next steps:
>* clarify the wording used, to indicate that a page is not yet ready
>* settle on the visual appearance of flags (not critical, but nice to
>have)
>* deploy the new flags template on /wiki (the main content site)
>* make sure unready pages have a flag checked, and that ready pages are
>free from flags
>* rewrite the Getting Started and Editor's Guide pages to reflect the
>new flag statuses, per Scott's concern [5]
>
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Also, a big thanks to Eliezer! We should blog / tweet about this minor
>milestone.
>
>
>[0] 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2013Jun/0169.html

>[1] 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2013Jun/0172.html

>[2] http://docs.webplatform.org/test/css/properties/border-radius

>[3] http://docs.webplatform.org/test/dom/methods/getElementById

>[4] 
>http://docs.webplatform.org/t/index.php?title=css/properties/border-radius

>&action=formedit
>[5] 
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webplatform/2013Jul/0005.html

>
>Regards-
>-Doug
>

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