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Re: do we meet at TPAC 2014?

From: Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:20:18 +0800
Message-ID: <CAM7BtUqa-3DS9fNxh167ARNQ-ghpL-_Tda3sR4UcoCYz3KH7sQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org>
Cc: Mountie Lee <mountie@paygate.net>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
Thank you again. I fully agree.

p.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Pindar,
>
> We are on the exact same line. Given that W3C is not yet a place where a
> big part of the finance industry is, we will ensure that before taking any
> decision, a critical mass is engaged. However, to be entirely honest, I
> tend to think that the best windows to consider membership is now. I don't
> want to be in a catch-22 position where some organizations want to see the
> type of work being developed before joining, and the group waiting for
> organizations to join before starting any work. I think it is too early to
> see what will happen, and we will have a better view at TPAC
>
> BEst
> steph
>
>
> Le 23/09/2014 09:53, Pindar Wong a écrit :
>
>> Thank you Steph for this thoughtful consideration.
>>
>> I would not want any new member to the W3C (in particular banks, payment
>> processors and other financial institutions, say from the Asia Pacific
>> or elsewhere) to feel disadvantaged at not being able to participate
>> fully in any decision making next month pending procedural inertia or
>> misunderstanding.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pindar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org
>> <mailto:boyera@w3.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello Pindar,
>>     You are absolutely right in the fact that the distance between the
>>     group announce and the first f2f is short for new members to join.
>>     I believe we can be flexible and have W3C members attending the F2F
>>     even if they are just at the beginning of the W3C membership
>>     application. We have a series of members in that state, that are
>>     ready to join provided the group is created.
>>     However, obviously if the attendance to the first face2face is low,
>>     then we should seriously consider another event in the near future
>>     like at the beginning of the year perhaps, or even before. This is
>>     something we will be able to evaluate by the end of october.
>>
>>     Best
>>     Steph
>>
>>     Le 23/09/2014 09:09, Pindar Wong a écrit :
>>
>>         Dear Stephane,
>>
>>         Thank you for your efforts and for your clarification regarding
>> the
>>         process. Especially regarding the approval (or not) of the
>>         formation of
>>         a Web Payment Interest Group (IG)  by October 16th.  The
>>         extension of
>>         any early-bird registration would  be most welcome by some and I
>> am
>>         sensitive to the optics w.r.t. an on-going vote.
>>
>>         Nevertheless, please do bear in mind that any potential new
>>         members to
>>         the W3C, who might join, if and only if, the new Interest Group is
>>         formed, might well like the option to formally  participate in any
>>         inaugural meeting of a  newly formed IG -- clearly that will be an
>>         important event.   Thus having some placeholder dates and venue,
>>         pending
>>         outcome of a vote, would very much assist in managing all parties
>>         expectations and would, I hope, not be controversial.
>>
>>         I look forward to the outcome of the W3C Membership and
>> Director's
>>         decision. Even though, in my case, I regret that it is exceedingly
>>         doubtful that I could attend on such short notice.
>>
>>         p.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org
>>         <mailto:boyera@w3.org>
>>         <mailto:boyera@w3.org <mailto:boyera@w3.org>>> wrote:
>>
>>              Hi Mountie, All,
>>
>>              W3C Web Payments IG is going to meet at TPAC if the group is
>>              approved by W3C membership and W3C director by October 16.
>>         At this
>>              point in time we have received only positive reviews, so
>>         i'm confident.
>>              I'm working on extending the early-bird registration till
>>         October 23
>>              for members of Web Payments IG to give a week after the
>>         announcement
>>              of the group for people to register. I will confirm this in
>> the
>>              announcement of the launch of the group.
>>
>>              Best
>>              Stephane
>>
>>
>>              Le 23/09/2014 06:58, Mountie Lee a écrit :
>>
>>                  I think
>>                  listing the schedule at
>>         http://www.w3.org/community/____webpayments/
>>         <http://www.w3.org/community/__webpayments/>
>>                  <http://www.w3.org/community/__webpayments/
>>         <http://www.w3.org/community/webpayments/>> is enough.
>>
>>                  that is also part of w3c page and the first place I
>>         were try to find
>>                  schedule.
>>
>>                  regards
>>                  mountie.
>>
>>                  On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Manu Sporny
>>                  <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
>>         <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
>>         <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com
>>         <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>
>>                  <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.
>>         <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.>____com
>>                  <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com
>>         <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>>> wrote:
>>
>>                       On 09/22/2014 11:41 PM, Pindar Wong wrote:
>>                       > I'm sorry Manu but this meeting that you're
>>         referring to
>>                  below is NOT
>>                       > on the schedule.
>>
>>                       Yes, this is causing a lot of confusion. I'm
>> currently
>>                  trying to get W3C
>>                       to at least list the meeting on the schedule, with
>> the
>>                  caveat that it
>>                       may not happen if W3C member companies vote the Web
>>                  Payments Activity
>>                       down. Even if that happens, I plan to run an
>>         unconference
>>                  session on it
>>                       and the Credentials work during W3C TPAC.
>>
>>                       Stephane has mentioned the meeting on this public
>>         mailing list:
>>
>>         http://lists.w3.org/Archives/____Public/public-____
>> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/____0016.html
>>         <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/__Public/public-__
>> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/__0016.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>         <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/__Public/public-__
>> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/__0016.html
>>         <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
>> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/0016.html>>
>>
>>                       W3C is not supposed to list meetings that have not
>>         yet been
>>                  approved by
>>                       the W3C membership (the vote is currently
>>         ongoing). I'm
>>                  guessing that
>>                       this is because some of the W3C membership may get
>>         cranky
>>                  if W3C does
>>                       something that hasn't been approved by them.
>>         Unfortunately,
>>                  that
>>                       approval will come on October 16th at the
>>         earliest, which
>>                  is well past
>>                       the early-bird registration deadline.
>>
>>                       > I guess people do things differently, but is
>> there a
>>                  venue or is
>>                       > that also up in the air too?
>>
>>                       The venue will be W3C TPAC, but currently you
>>         either have
>>                  to be a W3C
>>                       member to attend, or show promise at becoming a
>>         member in
>>                  the future.
>>
>>                       -- manu
>>
>>                       --
>>                       Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny,
>>         G+: +Manu
>>                  Sporny)
>>                       Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>>                       blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments
>>         http://manu.sporny.org/2014/____dawn-of-web-payments/
>>         <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/__dawn-of-web-payments/>
>>                  <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/__dawn-of-web-payments/
>>         <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                  --
>>                  Mountie Lee
>>
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>>                  E-Mail : mountie@paygate.net
>>         <mailto:mountie@paygate.net> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net
>>         <mailto:mountie@paygate.net>>
>>                  <mailto:mountie@paygate.net
>>         <mailto:mountie@paygate.net> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net
>>         <mailto:mountie@paygate.net>>>
>>
>>
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