- From: Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:59:24 +0200
- To: Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>
- CC: Mountie Lee <mountie@paygate.net>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
Hi Pindar, We are on the exact same line. Given that W3C is not yet a place where a big part of the finance industry is, we will ensure that before taking any decision, a critical mass is engaged. However, to be entirely honest, I tend to think that the best windows to consider membership is now. I don't want to be in a catch-22 position where some organizations want to see the type of work being developed before joining, and the group waiting for organizations to join before starting any work. I think it is too early to see what will happen, and we will have a better view at TPAC BEst steph Le 23/09/2014 09:53, Pindar Wong a écrit : > Thank you Steph for this thoughtful consideration. > > I would not want any new member to the W3C (in particular banks, payment > processors and other financial institutions, say from the Asia Pacific > or elsewhere) to feel disadvantaged at not being able to participate > fully in any decision making next month pending procedural inertia or > misunderstanding. > > Regards, > > Pindar > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org > <mailto:boyera@w3.org>> wrote: > > Hello Pindar, > You are absolutely right in the fact that the distance between the > group announce and the first f2f is short for new members to join. > I believe we can be flexible and have W3C members attending the F2F > even if they are just at the beginning of the W3C membership > application. We have a series of members in that state, that are > ready to join provided the group is created. > However, obviously if the attendance to the first face2face is low, > then we should seriously consider another event in the near future > like at the beginning of the year perhaps, or even before. This is > something we will be able to evaluate by the end of october. > > Best > Steph > > Le 23/09/2014 09:09, Pindar Wong a écrit : > > Dear Stephane, > > Thank you for your efforts and for your clarification regarding the > process. Especially regarding the approval (or not) of the > formation of > a Web Payment Interest Group (IG) by October 16th. The > extension of > any early-bird registration would be most welcome by some and I am > sensitive to the optics w.r.t. an on-going vote. > > Nevertheless, please do bear in mind that any potential new > members to > the W3C, who might join, if and only if, the new Interest Group is > formed, might well like the option to formally participate in any > inaugural meeting of a newly formed IG -- clearly that will be an > important event. Thus having some placeholder dates and venue, > pending > outcome of a vote, would very much assist in managing all parties > expectations and would, I hope, not be controversial. > > I look forward to the outcome of the W3C Membership and Director's > decision. Even though, in my case, I regret that it is exceedingly > doubtful that I could attend on such short notice. > > p. > > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org > <mailto:boyera@w3.org> > <mailto:boyera@w3.org <mailto:boyera@w3.org>>> wrote: > > Hi Mountie, All, > > W3C Web Payments IG is going to meet at TPAC if the group is > approved by W3C membership and W3C director by October 16. > At this > point in time we have received only positive reviews, so > i'm confident. > I'm working on extending the early-bird registration till > October 23 > for members of Web Payments IG to give a week after the > announcement > of the group for people to register. I will confirm this in the > announcement of the launch of the group. > > Best > Stephane > > > Le 23/09/2014 06:58, Mountie Lee a écrit : > > I think > listing the schedule at > http://www.w3.org/community/____webpayments/ > <http://www.w3.org/community/__webpayments/> > <http://www.w3.org/community/__webpayments/ > <http://www.w3.org/community/webpayments/>> is enough. > > that is also part of w3c page and the first place I > were try to find > schedule. > > regards > mountie. > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Manu Sporny > <msporny@digitalbazaar.com > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com> > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar. > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.>____com > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com > <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>>> wrote: > > On 09/22/2014 11:41 PM, Pindar Wong wrote: > > I'm sorry Manu but this meeting that you're > referring to > below is NOT > > on the schedule. > > Yes, this is causing a lot of confusion. I'm currently > trying to get W3C > to at least list the meeting on the schedule, with the > caveat that it > may not happen if W3C member companies vote the Web > Payments Activity > down. Even if that happens, I plan to run an > unconference > session on it > and the Credentials work during W3C TPAC. > > Stephane has mentioned the meeting on this public > mailing list: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/____Public/public-____webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/____0016.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/__Public/public-__webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/__0016.html> > > > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/__Public/public-__webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/__0016.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/0016.html>> > > W3C is not supposed to list meetings that have not > yet been > approved by > the W3C membership (the vote is currently > ongoing). I'm > guessing that > this is because some of the W3C membership may get > cranky > if W3C does > something that hasn't been approved by them. > Unfortunately, > that > approval will come on October 16th at the > earliest, which > is well past > the early-bird registration deadline. > > > I guess people do things differently, but is there a > venue or is > > that also up in the air too? > > The venue will be W3C TPAC, but currently you > either have > to be a W3C > member to attend, or show promise at becoming a > member in > the future. > > -- manu > > -- > Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, > G+: +Manu > Sporny) > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. > blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments > http://manu.sporny.org/2014/____dawn-of-web-payments/ > <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/__dawn-of-web-payments/> > <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/__dawn-of-web-payments/ > <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/>> > > > > > -- > Mountie Lee > > PayGate > CTO, CISSP > Tel : +82 2 2140 2700 <tel:%2B82%202%202140%202700> > <tel:%2B82%202%202140%202700> > E-Mail : mountie@paygate.net > <mailto:mountie@paygate.net> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net > <mailto:mountie@paygate.net>> > <mailto:mountie@paygate.net > <mailto:mountie@paygate.net> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net > <mailto:mountie@paygate.net>>> > > > -- > Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org <mailto:stephane@w3.org> > <mailto:stephane@w3.org <mailto:stephane@w3.org>> > W3C +33 (0) 6 73 84 87 27 > <tel:%2B33%20%280%29%206%2073%2084%2087%2027> > <tel:%2B33%20%280%29%206%2073%__2084%2087%2027> > BP 93 > F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, > France > > > > -- > Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org <mailto:stephane@w3.org> > W3C +33 (0) 6 73 84 87 27 <tel:%2B33%20%280%29%206%2073%2084%2087%2027> > BP 93 > F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, > France > > -- Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org W3C +33 (0) 6 73 84 87 27 BP 93 F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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