Re: google proposing to deprecate KEYGEN

On 8/4/15 10:52 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
> On 2015-08-04 15:49, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> On 8/4/15 3:18 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-04 08:01, Henry Story wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30 Jul 2015, at 16:44, Anders Rundgren
>>>>> <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-07-30 16:32, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.platform/pAUG2VQ6xfQ/FKX63BwOIwAJ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since none of the big users of client-side PKI have ever bothered
>>>>> with this crap
>>>>> it won't be missed.   This signifies the (expected) end of WebID-TLS
>>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Not quite, as it depends on what happens in the TLS 3.0 group. But
>>>> WebID-TLS can still
>>>> work very well for server to server communication. It seems that in
>>>> any case that is what
>>>> is going to have to happen, as browser vendors seem to have lost
>>>> their marbles somewhere
>>>> along the way from Netscape to here.
>>>
>>> The browser folks have lost the war against "Apps".  They don't
>>> realize (or acknowledge) the
>>> obvious either: By bridging the Web and App worlds you could COMBINE
>>> the power of BOTH worlds.
>>>
>>> The Web advocates are rather betting on that Apps is a fad, completely
>>> ignoring the fact
>>> that Google, Apple, and Microsoft are putting giant resources into
>>> their App platforms.
>> Anders,
>>
>> The World Wide Web is Linked Data collective crafted using Open
>> Standards (URIs, HTTP, HTML, RDF Language [retrospectively]) .
>>
>> A Browser is an App.
>
> For some people including myself a Browser is more like an Operating 
> System.

It isn't, and that's where all browser's get into trouble and muck up 
the entire notion of what the Web is about.

>
> Unlike traditional OSes, a Browser is designed to execute transiently 
> downloaded
> code (i.e. Apps) from arbitrary sites on the Internet.

A browser isn't an operating system. That's overeach that's eternally 
flawed.

> This ability is both a
> blessing and a curse.  We are currently discussing the "curse" side of 
> the coin.

I don't recognize that coin :)

Kingsley
>
> Anders
>
>> Same applies to all mobile apps.
>>
>> An application reads, manipulates, and writes data.
>>
>> It's about the Data and how its web-like form that matters.
>>
>> The Web-like form of data is a characteristic of structured data
>> representation that leverages the duality of HTTP URIs (as Entity Names
>> that resolve to Entity Description Documents).
>>
>> Note:
>> HTML is a Language (signs, syntax, semantics), but it has fixed notation
>> (HTML tags) and serialization format (text/html).
>> RDF is an Abstract Language (signs, syntax, semantics) that doesn't have
>> a fixed notation or serialization format.
>>
>> The only problem with RDF is that the term "RDF" is used too generically
>> which propagates nothing but confusion.
>>
>> Links:
>>
>> [1]
>> http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/situation-analysis-never-day-goes-by.html 
>>
>> -- Data & Semantics
>> [2] http://www.slideshare.net/kidehen/understanding-29894555 --
>> Understanding Data
>>
>
>
>


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