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RE: FW: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3

From: Cruikshank, David W <david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:06:49 -0800
Message-ID: <740D2CE97CEE6D4592D28C8B965280F7053A1391@XCH-NW-4V2.nw.nos.boeing.com>
To: "Lofton Henderson" <lofton@rockynet.com>, "Thierry Michel" <tmichel@w3.org>
Cc: "WebCGM WG" <public-webcgm-wg@w3.org>

Lofton,

Thanks, that exactly the kind of answer I've been looking for.  I know
pointing to the "latest version" address is a little tricky in a spec
that is subject to contractual agreement, but I think it's all I can do
for now.  We've known this point was coming and the specs can't wait any
longer. 

 Considering the email from Ian Jacobs earlier today it sounds like the
press release won't go out until the end of January, and I can't wait
that long.

Thx...Dave


Technical Fellow - Graphics/Digital Data Interchange
Boeing Commercial Airplane
206.544.3560, fax 206.662.3734
david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Lofton Henderson [mailto:lofton@rockynet.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:21 AM
To: Cruikshank, David W; Thierry Michel
Cc: WebCGM WG
Subject: RE: FW: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3


At 07:03 AM 12/22/2006 -0800, Cruikshank, David W wrote:

>Thierry,
>
>Let me confirm...
>
>Are  you saying that I can use
>http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/Group/2006/REC-webcgm20-20070115/ in 
>S1000D 2.3 and the ATA iSpec 2200 with some certainty??

Whoa!

1.) That's a member-only URI -- requires W3C member login.

2.) Secondly, it is potentially volatile.  Unlike an address in /TR/, it
is not guaranteed to remain unchanged forever.  It is under CVS control,
but the de-referenced version at that address may change.

What about using the "Latest Version" URI in /TR/:
http://www.w3.org/TR/webcgm20/  ?

Right now, it de-references to the Proposed Rec.  When Rec happens in
January, it will de-reference to REC WebCGM 2.0.  If there is ever an
errata release of 2.0, it would then de-reference to that.  There are
arguments both ways, about whether to de-reference to "latest version"
or a dated version, although the latter is considered by some to be more
orderly from a conformance perspective.

Alternately, you could point to the OASIS /CS2/ version.  That is
guaranteed by OASIS process to be identical to the OS version except for
cover page status.  Or ... you could point to the anticipated OS address
(I can tell you what I think it will be, and/or negotiate it with Mary)
-- that address is not date-sensitive, only "status sensitive" (it will
reflect OS instead of CS2).  We know now that we have exceeded 15% and
OS should be assured.

-Lofton.

>  I'm getting
>pressure to get the link into the text.  Keeping in mind that the 
>actual specs won't be published until end of February in the case of 
>S1000D and later for iSpec 2200.
>
>Thx....Dave
>
>
>Technical Fellow - Graphics/Digital Data Interchange Boeing Commercial 
>Airplane 206.544.3560, fax 206.662.3734 david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thierry Michel [mailto:tmichel@w3.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:03 AM
>To: Cruikshank, David W
>Cc: lofton@rockynet.com; WebCGM WG
>Subject: Re: FW: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
>
>
>I had installed a draft version of of REC here 
>http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/Group/2006/REC-webcgm20-20070115/
>
>The changes I have done in the version only apply to the cover page.
>Lofton needs to adds some update I believe (appendix D1, etc.).
>
>The stable URL of the final Spec, I do not know it, it will be based on

>the date of publication.
>
>   If you need to introduce something into the sopec -  S1000D Issue 
>2.3 , you should do it at the above URL and keep Lofton informed of you

>edits to track these in our "changes appendix".
>
>Thx,
>Thierry.
>
>
>
>
>Cruikshank, David W wrote:
> >
> > Any chance we would know the stable url of WebCGM 2.0 prior to 
> > actual publishing?  We are in a position where we need to insert 
> > something into S1000D Issue 2.3.
> >
> > Thx....Dave Cruikshank
> >
> > Technical Fellow - Graphics/Digital Data Interchange Boeing 
> > Commercial
>
> > Airplane 206.544.3560, fax 206.662.3734 
> > david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zimmermann, Peter E. [mailto:Peter.E.Zimmermann@eads.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:19 AM
> > To: Cruikshank, David W
> > Subject: RE: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Is there a chance to push at least the W3C guys a bit?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cruikshank, David W [mailto:david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:37 PM
> > To: Zimmermann, Peter E.
> > Subject: RE: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
> >
> > Thanks Peter,
> >
> > WebCGM 2.0 as cleared the PR stage in W3C.  I think right after the 
> > 1st of the year it will be published as REC.
> >
> > The OASIS balloting for WebCGM OS runs from Dec 16th through the end

> > of Dec.
> >
> > Thx...Dave
> >
> >
> > Technical Fellow - Graphics/Digital Data Interchange Boeing 
> > Commercial
>
> > Airplane 206.544.3560, fax 206.662.3734 
> > david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zimmermann, Peter E. [mailto:Peter.E.Zimmermann@eads.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:46 AM
> > To: Cruikshank, David W
> > Subject: RE: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
> >
> > Thanks Dave.
> >
> > I will update Chap 7.3.2 in accordance with your comments.
> > When do you think WebCGM 2.0 will become a W3C REC?
> >
> > Outstanding also (I believe): Valid S1000D XML Schema for companion 
> > files.
> > Will you provide a final valid version to Nico and me? When?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cruikshank, David W [mailto:david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:34 PM
> > To: Zimmermann, Peter E.
> > Subject: RE: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Denis has good points here...I'll address them her and then go into 
> > the forum site and proposd editing for the chapter.
> >
> > 1) is the use of the XCF a project decision or mandatory?
> >
> >       I think it's a project decision
> >
> > 2) are the mapping rules (eg Table 5, XCF mapping of element
> > <hotspot>) project decisions (each rule) or mandatory?
> >
> >       Project decision
> >
> > 3) Be careful,
> > <!ATTLIST webcgm
> >    ...
> >    pictureVisibility (on | off) "on" #IMPLIED
> >    ...
> >  >
> > is not valid (several occurrences of such constructions) XML DTD 
> > construct
> >
> >       Agreed, this is something that you and I edited into the 
> > chapter
>
> > without really thinking about it.  The WebCGM 2.0 spec has the 
> > correct
>
> > initial values and behaviors for all of these defined.  They 
> > shouldn't
>
> > be here, nor in the XCF DTD.
> >
> > 4) Please also check that 2 attributes of type ID on the same 
> > element is allowed by XML or by the Schemas (if i remember correctly

> > it is not
>
> > valid in pure SGML).
> >
> >       Agreed.  The S1000D:id should be CDATA.
> >
> > Thx....Dave Cruikshank
> >
> > Technical Fellow - Graphics/Digital Data Interchange Boeing 
> > Commercial
>
> > Airplane 206.544.3560, fax 206.662.3734 
> > david.w.cruikshank@boeing.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zimmermann, Peter E. [mailto:Peter.E.Zimmermann@eads.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:51 PM
> > To: Cruikshank, David W
> > Subject: WG: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
> >
> > Dave, would you please give us some answers. Thanks, Peter.
> > Regards,
> > Peter Zimmermann
> > Expert ILS Process Standards
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Excoffier, Denis
> > To: Zimmermann, Peter E.
> > CC: Excoffier, Denis; Deschamp, Bernard
> > Sent: Wed Dec 06 18:04:19 2006
> > Subject: Chapter 7.3.2 in S1000D Issue 2.3
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I had a look into your chapter 7.3.2 Issue 003 Inwork 53 and now, a 
> > few
> > questions/remarks:
> >
> >
> > 1) is the use of the XCF a project decision or mandatory?
> >
> > 2) are the mapping rules (eg Table 5, XCF mapping of element
> > <hotspot>) project decisions (each rule) or mandatory?
> >
> > 3) Be careful,
> > <!ATTLIST webcgm
> >    ...
> >    pictureVisibility (on | off) "on" #IMPLIED
> >    ...
> >  >
> > is not valid (several occurrences of such constructions) XML DTD 
> > construct
> >
> > 4) Please also check that 2 attributes of type ID on the same 
> > element is allowed by XML or by the Schemas (if i remember correctly

> > it is not
>
> > valid in pure SGML).
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Denis Excoffier.
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