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Re: [whatwg] File API Streaming Blobs

From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:16:41 -0700
Message-ID: <4E409889.6010207@jumis.com>
To: Glenn Maynard <glenn@zewt.org>
CC: Simon Heckmann <simon@simonheckmann.de>, Eric U <ericu@google.com>, WHATWG <whatwg@lists.whatwg.org>, "arun@mozilla.com" <arun@mozilla.com>, Adam Malcontenti-Wilson <adman.com@gmail.com>, "WEBAPPLICATIONS (WEBAPPS) WORKING GROUP" <public-webapps@w3.org>
On 8/8/2011 2:51 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Simon Heckmann <simon@simonheckmann.de 
> <mailto:simon@simonheckmann.de>> wrote:
>
>     Well, not directly an answer to your question, but the use case I
>     had in mind is the following:
>
>     A large encrypted video (e.g. HD movie with 2GB) file is stored
>     using the File API, I then want to decrypt this file and start
>     playing with only a minor delay. I do not want to decrypt the
>     entire file before it can be viewed. As long as such as use case
>     gets covered I am fine with everything.
>
>
> Assuming you're thinking of DRM, are there any related use cases other 
> than crypto?  Encryption for DRM, at least, isn't a very compelling 
> use case; client-side Javascript encryption is a very weak level of 
> protection (putting aside, for now, the question of whether the web 
> can or should be attempting to handle DRM in the first place).  If 
> it's not DRM you're thinking of, can you clarify?
>

Jonas Sickling brought up a few cases for XHR-based streaming of 
arraybuffers: progressive rendering of word docs and PDFs.
WebP and WebM have had interesting packaging hacks. Packaging itself, 
whether DRM or not, is compelling.
PDF supports embedded data, a wide range of formats. GPAC provides many 
related tools (MP4 based, I believe):
http://gpac.wp.institut-telecom.fr/

The audio and video tags drop frames
It seems to me that if a listener is not registered to the stream, data 
would just be dropped.

As an alternative, the author could register a fixed length circular buffer.

For instance, I could create  1 megabyte arrayview, run 
URL.createBlobStream(ArrayView)
and use .append(data). That kind of structure may support multicast 
(multiple audio/video elements)
and improved XHR2 semantics. The circular buffer, itself, is easy to 
prototype: subarray
works well with typed arrays.

Otherwise relevant, is the work on raw audio data
that Firefox and Chromium have released as experimental extensions.
It does work on a buffer-based system.

-Charles
Received on Tuesday, 9 August 2011 02:17:19 GMT

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