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Re: An HTML5 logo

From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@visc.us>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:31:48 -0800
Message-Id: <BF3BBF20-EEC2-4F54-A115-00FBAEFCA5A1@visc.us>
Cc: Axel Rauschmayer <axel@rauschma.de>, "marcosc@opera.com" <marcosc@opera.com>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
To: Nathan Kitchen <w3c@nathankitchen.com>
Ian has, for quite some tine, described his whatwg document as HTML "Next", a 'living' standard.

This is separate from the w3c procedures, where HTML5 will be codified.

As for web apps: I think it's too early to include them. I'd like to see more standardization on elevating permissions. Currently, we have the cache manifest, and that can work securely over https. But after that, every browser has its own semantics for content scripts and global (background) pages.


On Jan 23, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Nathan Kitchen <w3c@nathankitchen.com> wrote:

> I'm also a little confused. There was a recent announcement [1] from the WHATWG that the version number was being dropped from HTML 5. This has been reported elsewhere, usually directly referring back to the WHATWG announcement [2].
> 
> Obviously this doesn't seem to fit with the smacking great "5" in the new logo. For the record I think it looks great, there just seems to be a bit of confusion around it at the moment.
> 
> [1] http://blog.whatwg.org/html-is-the-new-html5
> [2] http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/01/html-to-lose-the-version-number.ars
> 
> On 23 January 2011 06:54, Axel Rauschmayer <axel@rauschma.de> wrote:
> Yes, the logo looks awesome!
> 
> But I think we should clarify who the logo is for: Techies or end users. All the logo mission statements that I have read point to the former group, but I think it makes more sense to target the latter group. Then HTML5 might not be a good brand [1].
> 
> [1] http://www.2ality.com/2011/01/branding-web-technologies-and-new-html5.html
> 
> On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:49 , Marcos Caceres wrote:
> 
> > Hi Philippe,
> >
> > Logos look nice! however, I'm baffled as to why HTML5 logo site mix in
> > things like WebGL and CSS 3, which are clearly not part of the HTML
> > Standard (as it is now known;))? Who made the choice of what
> > technologes were to be included or excluded from the set of
> > technologies that make up the logo sets? I ask because it's poignant
> > and a little demoralizing to us who have been working for many years
> > to see W3C Widgets excluded from the list. I'm sure I'm not the only
> > one feeling a bit confused by the W3C's lack of communication about
> > this project or why the W3C chose to exclude widgets and other
> > technologies? Did I miss the memo?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Marcos
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org> wrote:
> >> Dear Web Application Working Group,
> >>
> >> Today W3C introduced an HTML5 logo for public consideration:
> >> http://www.w3.org/News/2011#entry-8992
> >>
> >> The W3C Communications Team is excited about the HTML5 logo, developed
> >> with community support, and hopes it will help you promote your work.
> >> The logo is intended to be a general purpose visual identity for HTML5
> >> and other web application technologies. It doesn't imply conformance;
> >> just "this is about open web application technologies."
> >>
> >> This is not yet the official W3C Communications Team logo for HTML5. We
> >> look forward to broad community adoption in order to make it so.
> >>
> >> For more information about the logo, see the logo home page [1] and faq
> >> [2].
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Philippe Le H├ęgaret, Interaction Domain Lead
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/html/logo/
> >> [2] http://www.w3.org/html/logo/faq
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcos Caceres
> > Opera Software ASA, http://www.opera.com/
> > http://datadriven.com.au
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Dr. Axel Rauschmayer
> axel@rauschma.de
> Home: http://rauschma.de
> Blog: http://2ality.com
> 
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